2017 Ridgeline

emmodg

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I'd have no shame driving a C7! Great car for the money considering it will embarrass cars twice as expensive! The Z06 is a rocket ship!
 

kennith

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I'd have no shame driving a C7! Great car for the money considering it will embarrass cars twice as expensive! The Z06 is a rocket ship!

For $90,000 it ought to be, because that's what it costs to bring it to a competitive trim level. Add another $8,000 to give all the performance associated with the vehicle, and you'll crack $100,000 by the time you drop in a few trinkets.

It's not going to embarrass a DB9 or DB11, either; both of which are around twice that price. Chevrolet has been a bit liberal in regard to advertisements related to performance, and I think I'd rather be rolling around one of those Astons.

As far as what you can buy at the Corvettes own price point, that hundred grand will drop you in a new Range Rover, a decked out performance BMW or Mercedes, a top of the line performance Jaguar, mighty close to a Nissan GTR, the top-tier Tesla Model S, or even a Rally Fighter.

I'd certainly rather have a Rally Fighter than a Corvette. Hell, it's probably got a smoother ride. :rofl:

Buyers have made a decision to bypass all of those vehicles in favor of a Corvette.

That said, they're gorgeous in person. The first time I saw the latest model in a parking lot, I didn't know what the hell I was looking at. Chevrolet finally got the styling right; toning down some of those "legacy details" that were hearkening back to nothing they should have been bragging about.

It's still brash, but I don't think it goes far enough for that to be enough. I'd rather have a Viper, if I was going to buy an American vehicle in that price range.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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The Hellcats really are setting the new standard for sleepers and outright power to the wheels. American muscle always amazes me.

Anyone see this theft of a new one?

http://jalopnik.com/watch-thieves-use-a-minivan-to-push-a-stolen-dodge-hell-1791571775

They're still not as impressive as they could be.

Certainly more than enough, but the $70,000 it'll take to buy one is, again, money that could buy something much nicer, if not quite as fast. We can do better, and we should be doing better.

Ford showed us it was possible with the GT, and aside from occasional dealership markups, it wasn't unreasonably priced. Now they're doing very well at auctions. Ever want to kick yourself in the ass? :banghead:

I've always liked things that need to be pushed a bit, though. I like power, but when you're puttering around, never leaving third gear in town, just dipping the throttle every now and again even on the highway...

It's just not as much fun as you'd think. As much as I like the idea of the Hellcat, I would never buy one.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Maximumwarp

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It's not going to embarrass a DB9 or DB11, either; both of which are around twice that price. Chevrolet has been a bit liberal in regard to advertisements related to performance, and I think I'd rather be rolling around one of those Astons.

Kennith

Having driven both, the Corvette feels faster and more exciting. The Vette gets my heart racing more. The main thing the DB9 has over the Vette is the ripping noise that comes out of the back of that V-12. This is an apples/oranges comparison, however. The DB9 is a GT car. The Corvette...isn't.
 

emmodg

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For $90,000 it ought to be, because that's what it costs to bring it to a competitive trim level. Add another $8,000 to give all the performance associated with the vehicle, and you'll crack $100,000 by the time you drop in a few trinkets.

It's not going to embarrass a DB9 or DB11, either; both of which are around twice that price. Chevrolet has been a bit liberal in regard to advertisements related to performance, and I think I'd rather be rolling around one of those Astons.

As far as what you can buy at the Corvettes own price point, that hundred grand will drop you in a new Range Rover, a decked out performance BMW or Mercedes, a top of the line performance Jaguar, mighty close to a Nissan GTR, the top-tier Tesla Model S, or even a Rally Fighter.

I'd certainly rather have a Rally Fighter than a Corvette. Hell, it's probably got a smoother ride. :rofl:

Buyers have made a decision to bypass all of those vehicles in favor of a Corvette.

That said, they're gorgeous in person. The first time I saw the latest model in a parking lot, I didn't know what the hell I was looking at. Chevrolet finally got the styling right; toning down some of those "legacy details" that were hearkening back to nothing they should have been bragging about.

It's still brash, but I don't think it goes far enough for that to be enough. I'd rather have a Viper, if I was going to buy an American vehicle in that price range.

Cheers,

Kennith

Kennith, you may THINK you know something about everything but you know little to none about what the C7 "needs" to be competitive. DB9 or 11? Really? First thing I EVER learned in driving school (track driving school) is this: It's the Indian and not the arrow. You're one of those guys I used to see in a prior job I had that would come into the shop on weekends with his Boxter looking for a new splitter. Or his mono-balled 997 talking about cold air intakes.

A rally fighter????? I saw one literally DROP pieces of itself on the ground PARKED. It's a crowd-engineered and funded kit car. Nothing more.

You ever drive a Viper? If you can keep the rear end on the same page as the front end your doing good!
 

brian4d

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They're still not as impressive as they could be.

Certainly more than enough, but the $70,000 it'll take to buy one is, again, money that could buy something much nicer, if not quite as fast. We can do better, and we should be doing better.

Ford showed us it was possible with the GT, and aside from occasional dealership markups, it wasn't unreasonably priced. Now they're doing very well at auctions. Ever want to kick yourself in the ass? :banghead:

I've always liked things that need to be pushed a bit, though. I like power, but when you're puttering around, never leaving third gear in town, just dipping the throttle every now and again even on the highway...

It's just not as much fun as you'd think. As much as I like the idea of the Hellcat, I would never buy one.

Cheers,

Kennith

I agree but we're talking two different classes of autos. Super Sport and Retro Mid-side sedans. I veered off topic a bit.

And not as much fun? Not sure how you get your kicks but have you driven a Hellcat? I have not, but my old Mustang was a blast. Had a 300ZX TT as well. Take off the T-Tops, plan a trip through Western NC and the fun factor matched no other.
 

kennith

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Kennith, you may THINK you know something about everything but you know little to none about what the C7 "needs" to be competitive. DB9 or 11? Really? First thing I EVER learned in driving school (track driving school) is this: It's the Indian and not the arrow. You're one of those guys I used to see in a prior job I had that would come into the shop on weekends with his Boxter looking for a new splitter. Or his mono-balled 997 talking about cold air intakes.

You've got it terribly wrong there, man. I've owned my share of fast cars, and I'm no slouch myself. I'm not too picky about performance so far as road-going or track vehicles go, either. Everything has it's own personality, and it's fun to find it. If I was "that guy", I wouldn't be eyeballing (and defending against pig-headed convention) the Honda Ridgeline.

The suggestion was made that it will embarrass a car that costs twice as much. I disagree. I didn't say it needed anything in regard to performance to be competitive. Nothing of the sort, aside from a passing shot at their inflated numbers. Indeed, roll back to the Ridgeline and you'll see the same notes on driving versus what's being driven. I've always been of that opinion.

Chevrolet's biggest problem with the Corvette has historically been balancing performance with a quality driving experience. The C7 is the best one yet, and it's almost there; but not quite.

What I don't like about the C7 has nothing to do with performance; it's the whole package. If you want to get close to the numbers they claim, you'll need to spend that $100,000. Regardless of what you can personally afford, that's a fair chunk of change.

It's a fast car, and it's a beautiful car... But it's not a $100,000 car yet. Next time around they'll probably nail it.

That's what I was on about.

A rally fighter????? I saw one literally DROP pieces of itself on the ground PARKED. It's a crowd-engineered and funded kit car. Nothing more.

I'd still rather have one of those. The fact that it's street legal is almost worth the price of entry. It's a stupid vehicle, but there's nothing wrong with that. The story behind it and the people involved are interesting. It's got a bit more soul than your average "kit car", and to be fair, there's some expensive shit in those things.

You ever drive a Viper? If you can keep the rear end on the same page as the front end your doing good!

Yup, and I think it's a fun car. They can be tamed well enough, but they're still a bit snappy with all that rubber in the rear. I was considering one a little while back, but I think they've gone a little too far. They made more sense when they made no sense at all.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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I agree but we're talking two different classes of autos. Super Sport and Retro Mid-side sedans. I veered off topic a bit.

And not as much fun? Not sure how you get your kicks but have you driven a Hellcat? I have not, but my old Mustang was a blast. Had a 300ZX TT as well. Take off the T-Tops, plan a trip through Western NC and the fun factor matched no other.

Nope, but I put several thousand miles on this bugger before selling it off. Not the same at all, but I think it qualifies as American performance, for the most part, and it's reasonably contemporary with off the line figures that get the point across the second you touched the throttle:

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I put a caption under that picture that said "Ran when parked..." as part of the silly advertisement. :rofl:

Great car, but too much to really enjoy without a track. I honestly have more fun flooring the XJS around the mountains, because I can actually do that without immediately breaking every speed limit in this nation.

...and that's my point about fun. If I can't wring something out, it's kind of hard to get the laughs out of it. If I were to buy a Mustang today, I'd buy the Ecoboost four cylinder model.

There are lots of cars that I like, but I don't like the Challenger in person, and all the power in the world won't change the fact that I think it should be smaller. That's just personal preference, though.

I literally walked in the dealer the day they got the first Challenger in the showroom. Called me up to let me know it was on the way, and I was really excited. I think it's beautiful, but when I was standing in front of it... The thing just fell flat for me.

Damned thing was Panther Pink, too. I'd have had that.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Tugela

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And yes, one can always kick themselves for past vehicles owned and then sold at the wrong time.

I do this daily for having let my RRC go. Sigh. Which is not to say I'm dissatisfied with my Disco - it is fantastic - but there is no replacing your first love.