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[JSQ]

Jack,
Did you miss my first response to your long-winded diatribe? You chose only to respond to the silly post I made about your PMS?

How about this, you want a battle?

You think you called me out on being a poser...yet, I've never claimed to be a hard-core off-roading techno-whiz. I've asked questions, I've learned and I've tried to help a few other people with the knowledge I've gained.

I take a few trips off-road every year. Yet, I drive in mud and rocks. I don't drive in the desert, on sand and through open country. I don't cry when my truck gets scratched. My truck isn't completely built and ready to do anything just because I've poured a bunch of money into it. Isn't that a poser? Someone who builds their truck up, only to drive it around on the road and keep it shiny and clean? I take care of my vehicle and I don't thrash it. I have few dents or dings and I don't drive it like a beater. I don't make stupid mods or try to fab things I can't do well. And I don't beat other people for trying. If I wanted to do that, I'd have been on LRO.

Yet, I can take a trip without telling everyone on the internet about it, taking pictures of everything I've eaten, telling everyone how cool I am and how much time I have to drive around. Shit, I think some of the trips you've taken were easier than my backyard. I don't have to be on TV, with my collar popped, trying to show everyone how high-class I am while standing next to a fake bimbo who wants to learn about driving a new Range Rover in the dirt. I mean hell, do you consider her a true off-roader now that she got to drive some of your trucks? In the past, I've admired your photo-essays and complimented your lifestyle. I might have even envied you a time or two...especially for having the free time to hunt or train your dog or go wheeling. But I'd take my life and my attitude any day over yours.

John Lee was smart and stinging and smooth. Kyle was tough yet almost always right. You're trying WAY too hard to continue a legacy of people who have left Dweb. Maybe you're too young to do the job.

What's the matter Susannah?

Are we stinging a bit to learn the person we've spent so much of our time congratulating doesn't feel the same way about you?

Stop contradicting yourself.
It's pathetic.

We've all read while you went on and on about how this or that was soooooooo cool only to try to take it all back in one measly post.
Don't make me dig up the threads.
You won't fare well.

And are you seriously implying here:

I take a few trips off-road every year. Yet, I drive in mud and rocks. I don't drive in the desert, on sand and through open country. I don't cry when my truck gets scratched. My truck isn't completely built and ready to do anything just because I've poured a bunch of money into it. Isn't that a poser? Someone who builds their truck up, only to drive it around on the road and keep it shiny and clean? I take care of my vehicle and I don't thrash it. I have few dents or dings and I don't drive it like a beater. I don't make stupid mods or try to fab things I can't do well. And I don't beat other people for trying. If I wanted to do that, I'd have been on LRO.

That I'm the opposite of any of those things?
That I don't drive in mud or rocks?
That I only drive in desert, sand or open country?
I cry when my truck gets scratched?
I'm a poseur with a shiny truck that doesn't get used?

Please tell me your post is just poorly worded and difficult to understand.
That would be far less ridiculous.

You seriously think every trip I take, everything I do makes it to the internet, magazines or TV?

Please.

What you get to see is a sprinkling.
It's a taste.

I love how your excuse for not wheeling is that your some super secret stealth wheeler who destroys all the evidence at the end of every trip.

You take pics.
Of saddles and your driveway and shit like that.
But not of any wheeling trips.

You seem most concerned to defend your poseur status.
You'll go on and on about how you "never claimed" this or that, and then contradict yourself, by trying to say how dweb real you are.

Why don't you try concerning yourself with the fact that you have over 3,000 fucking posts and it's all fluff.

 

[JSQ]

To be honest, I can hardly tell when you are being complimentary or sarcastic anymore. I read those posts, and yeah, there is something there that can be construed as positive. But it's all about ratios, man. If you are sober 1 day out of 30, you can't say you kicked the habit.....

Sorry.
If I read 30 thread and 29 are some self-congratulatory loser spouting misinformation, I'm not going to post more than one positive thing just to keep my averages up.

 

[Matt Taylor]

I've been staying out of this, but what the fuck...

I don't even wheel, really. Yeah, I've gone out a handful of times and really enjoyed it. I always think I'm going to go in the future, but the truth is I'd rather play golf, so that's what I do.

But I am certainly a rover enthusiast, and that needs no further explanation, I don't think.

I've been visiting Dweb since late '99, best I can remember -- that's when I got my first rover. In those days, I didn't post much, because a) I had no frickin clue about anything and b) the people on this site did.

I was here to learn. Back then, you could honestly learn stuff about your truck from this website, without having to fight through the exact wrong shit to do. It was plain. People would squabble, but ultimately the prudent thing to do won out, because most of the people on this site had been through all the other options already.

I remember Kyle fighting the same battle over and over again about what mods weren't worth doing to these trucks. His proof was that he could go anywhere the driveline abusers could go without his truck breaking.

So, I was certainly a noob, and I still feel like one. I don't have any skins on the wall, or cool wheeling pics. But I managed to learn a lot over the years, and I liked Dweb alot. It was by far the best BBS I'd ever been to.

Then it got overrun. The people who knew shit tired of having to constantly repeat themselves, and the inmates took over the asylum. I have no idea why dweb still exists; must be some kind of inside joke or something.

I realized the dweb I loved was over when I started being able to call bullshit on people. If your ideas of cool mods are so whacked out that I see what's wrong with them, you've got problems.

I still see a bunch of the same names as the old days, so you guys know what I'm saying. This place is a far cry from what the founders of the site envisioned, I would suppose.

I always thought the degradation of this place was like anything else. I loved R.E.M. in the early to mid eighties. Then sometime in the 90s, they went more mainstream and didn't appeal to me anymore. Not because they were popular, but because the content changed to appease the masses. I just figured Dweb was going down the same path, and that the path was unavoidable.

I think most old line dwebbers felt the same way -- that we couldn't stop the downward spiral we all felt happening.

You can't blame Jack for fighting for it. I personally never felt invested enough to try to change dweb from taking it's natural course; I figured it would be what it would be, and I could decide to take it or leave it.

But nobody can argue that the website is better now than it was. And you may bag on Jack for sniping people, but you know damn well that certain people need to be sniped. In the old days, there were a lot more wardens than there were inmates, so you could afford to let some stuff slide. In this current incarnation of flying shit, I don't think you can blame somebody from the old guard for being too aggressive.

The culture of this place has palpably changed. I used to feel like a poseur and wouldn't ever toe the line because I knew I didn't know shit. Now, I feel like a poseur who looks down his nose at some of the ridiculous bastards on this site.

I'd love to see the old dweb back. Maybe Jack can win the fight that nobody else wants to fight. Based on the reaction he's receiving in this thread, especially from the dudes that have been here a while, I think it's safe to say that dweb will continue to be the insane asylum it currently is. I dunno, maybe he can rally the troops to start riding herd on the bullshit once again -- that's the only way it'll go back.

 

[isv12]

Quinlan, Jack
***********
**************

**************

Hey Jack, I've got your number boy. Keep saying shit like this. I'll be making a call to you.

 

[nosivad_bor]

Look here you San Diego queer, I'm tired of your god-damned mouth! I looked at your ee desert pictures. You call that wheelin? I could take my wife's god-damn car over top that rock you jacked over. Driving around in the dust don't make you a off roader.

I ain't got no kids who the hell is jimjet?

Even a redneck nows not to pick on a lady. We pick on MEN our own size. Course you might like that!

check blee, Bro was ON !

:rofl:

 

[Blueboy]

The collective bullshit tolerance of dweb was FAR FAR lower in those days

yes, at one time even the General section threads were supposed to be about Rovers in some form.

Mr. Ho reminded me of that a few years back actually.


Jaime

 

[DiscoveryXD]

anybody know if a 305/70/16 will fit a D1? or will i have to trim?

thought id ask since this thread is getting so much damn attention and it's been a pile of shit for so long...

 

[stevenmd]

I think Jack is right. Yeah, I said it. He's right. Dweb used to be a no-nonsense place. Where you got information and that information was spot on. And yeah, Ho has "reminded" me several times also (under different screen names).


Geez, I finally conform to Dweb's standards and then it goes off the deep end.

 

[Roverlady]

What's the matter Susannah?

Are we stinging a bit to learn the person we've spent so much of our time congratulating doesn't feel the same way about you?

Stop contradicting yourself.
It's pathetic.

We've all read while you went on and on about how this or that was soooooooo cool only to try to take it all back in one measly post.
Don't make me dig up the threads.
You won't fare well.

And are you seriously implying here:

That I'm the opposite of any of those things?
That I don't drive in mud or rocks?
That I only drive in desert, sand or open country?
I cry when my truck gets scratched?
I'm a poseur with a shiny truck that doesn't get used?

Please tell me your post is just poorly worded and difficult to understand.
That would be far less ridiculous.

You seriously think every trip I take, everything I do makes it to the internet, magazines or TV?

Please.

What you get to see is a sprinkling.
It's a taste.

I love how your excuse for not wheeling is that your some super secret stealth wheeler who destroys all the evidence at the end of every trip.

You take pics.
Of saddles and your driveway and shit like that.
But not of any wheeling trips.

You seem most concerned to defend your poseur status.
You'll go on and on about how you "never claimed" this or that, and then contradict yourself, by trying to say how dweb real you are.

Why don't you try concerning yourself with the fact that you have over 3,000 fucking posts and it's all fluff.

Jack I take plenty of pics that I don't share here. I don't have time to upload every damn picture that I take. I've shared things I thought were relevant at the time. I haven't updated my gallery in forever because I don't want to take the time to resize every photo I've taken to email it to be posted. I'm not defending my "poseur" status. I guess I'm not Dweb Real then. Why the fuck don't you jump on someone who really wants to waste their time arguing with you about a bunch of typing on the internet. I'm not concerned that I've got 3000 posts. You don't think there are people here with more than contribute even less? Hell, I've even stayed out of the little cat fights about politics and only responded to a few general stuff at a time. If you are so bothered by my presence on this board, and the in fact the way this bbs is going in general, why the hell are you still here and still responding to ME. Why did you post shit TO ME about polo matches and pretty pictures of posed gear? Why not just ignore me as you did Roverpuppy and Roverchic. Half the fucking people on here don't even OWN rovers or aren't even 18 years old.

How about a poll Jack. Ask everyone if they want me off this board and ask them if I post too much fluff that offends people and shows that I'm a poser. If that is what the consensus finds, then I'll leave.

I'm willing to bet you are choosing to single me out NOW because you think I'm being weak and I'll fold. Do you really think this is a fair match? Shit, give me a call if you think you need to get something off your chest. It obviously takes you too damn long to type it all out. Maybe I WAS wrong. Maybe you are just an insecure little fuck.

 

[Roverlady]

I think Jack is right. Yeah, I said it. He's right. Dweb used to be a no-nonsense place. Where you got information and that information was spot on. And yeah, Ho has "reminded" me several times also (under different screen names).


Geez, I finally conform to Dweb's standards and then it goes off the deep end.

You know the funny thing about all of this is that I have actually complained before about the lack of interesting stuff on here of late and the fact that there was too much stupid banter and discussion about worthless subjects. I've tried to stay out of it and I've just recently seemed to more caught up in all the silliness. I guess this is what I get, right? I've tried to be the nice person and not stir the pot. I tried to get information here and enjoy other people.

Guess I'd better apologize to everyone here for adding to the FLUFF, even when I wanted this thread to die.

 

[stevenmd]

You know the funny thing about all of this is that I have actually complained before about the lack of interesting stuff on here of late and the fact that there was too much stupid banter and discussion about worthless subjects. I've tried to stay out of it and I've just recently seemed to more caught up in all the silliness. I guess this is what I get, right? I've tried to be the nice person and not stir the pot. I tried to get information here and enjoy other people.

Guess I'd better apologize to everyone here for adding to the FLUFF, even when I wanted this thread to die.

Apologies ma'am. Didn't mean he was right for picking on a lady. I meant the other stuff.

 

[JohnK]

I saw Kyle argue with someone over a network administration issue. Kyle called the other person a moron and IP blocked them. Kyle was incorrect on the issue. He was a bully. Is this the Dweb you want to return to?

 

[Matt Taylor]

I saw Kyle argue with someone over a network administration issue. Kyle called the other person a moron and IP blocked them. Kyle was incorrect on the issue. He was a bully. Is this the Dweb you want to return to?

yes.

 

[stevenmd]

yes.

No Dweb for you!:rofl:

 

[curtis]

Good lord. This was never supposed to turn into a wholesale roasting of Jack.

Settle down people...

 

[D Chapman]

I think everyone need to slow down, take a deep breath, and understand Jack is from California.

Jack,
You sure do make a lot of reference to John. Is he your idol? What did you think of that Toto? Did you eat lead paint when you were young?

 

[slangel]

You know the funny thing about all of this is that I have actually complained before about the lack of interesting stuff on here of late and the fact that there was too much stupid banter and discussion about worthless subjects. I've tried to stay out of it and I've just recently seemed to more caught up in all the silliness. I guess this is what I get, right? I've tried to be the nice person and not stir the pot. I tried to get information here and enjoy other people.

Guess I'd better apologize to everyone here for adding to the FLUFF, even when I wanted this thread to die.

Sus - there is quite often worthless shit in the general area and sometimes not. I am just as guilty of the banter - but sometimes we just get caught in the BS and silliness. I enjoy other people on this board too, and if we are classed as poseurs because we don't post every wheeling picture when we go then so be it. This has gotten completely silly and out of hand and I think you have taken quite enough.

 

[rovercanus]

So now the thread takes a complete 180 and we want more moderators. Say like, um, LRO.

 

[JSQ]

Jack I take plenty of pics that I don't share here. I don't have time to upload every damn picture that I take. I've shared things I thought were relevant at the time. I haven't updated my gallery in forever because I don't want to take the time to resize every photo I've taken to email it to be posted. I'm not defending my "poseur" status. I guess I'm not Dweb Real then. Why the fuck don't you jump on someone who really wants to waste their time arguing with you about a bunch of typing on the internet. I'm not concerned that I've got 3000 posts. You don't think there are people here with more than contribute even less? Hell, I've even stayed out of the little cat fights about politics and only responded to a few general stuff at a time. If you are so bothered by my presence on this board, and the in fact the way this bbs is going in general, why the hell are you still here and still responding to ME. Why did you post shit TO ME about polo matches and pretty pictures of posed gear? Why not just ignore me as you did Roverpuppy and Roverchic. Half the fucking people on here don't even OWN rovers or aren't even 18 years old.

Like I said before, Susannah, I've particpated in some chit chat with you from time to time and unfortunately that's all it's ever been.
I've never talked mods.
I've never helped you plan a trip.
I've never read about anything you did that was anymore rover related than Ivan buying a RRC.
That chit chat was as good as it got. And over time I've watched you get to the point where you post a count # and "bacon" in lieu of even substantive chit chat.
If you had anything to contribute it probably wasn't rover-related, but you can do better that what you've resorted to as of late.

Why stay out of the politics?
It may not be the most exciting, but at least it's a topic.

I have no beef with Jamie RoverPuppy.
Fuck, she was more hardcore and more interesting than 90% of the current dweb losers and she wanted more than anything to learn.
She may have been goofy but she was practically a role model for newbies (aside from the overposting) and I had plenty of nice things to say to her and about her.

How about a poll Jack. Ask everyone if they want me off this board and ask them if I post too much fluff that offends people and shows that I'm a poser. If that is what the consensus finds, then I'll leave.

You think I don't know I'm outnumbered?
I know exactly where I stand.
I know that you've spent enough time cheerleading the mindless masses that they'll support you.
I've tolerated you. I've never singled you out, and I've let plenty slide because you seemed harmless and good-natured enough. But now you've decided you're going to make a stand and you've chosen the fluff side because that is what you love.

I'm willing to bet you are choosing to single me out NOW because you think I'm being weak and I'll fold. Do you really think this is a fair match? Shit, give me a call if you think you need to get something off your chest. It obviously takes you too damn long to type it all out. Maybe I WAS wrong. Maybe you are just an insecure little fuck.

What are you saying?
This isn't a fair match?
What does that mean, exactly?
Like, you're a girl and I should only say nice things about you? You want some sort of special consideration like JimJet has for Roverchic? I'd give you more credit than that. I'd assume you'd stand on your own two feet.

I'm insecure?
If I lacked confidence I'd run before Santa Ana's armies.
But this is my Alamo and I'm making my stand.

You know the funny thing about all of this is that I have actually complained before about the lack of interesting stuff on here of late and the fact that there was too much stupid banter and discussion about worthless subjects. I've tried to stay out of it and I've just recently seemed to more caught up in all the silliness. I guess this is what I get, right? I've tried to be the nice person and not stir the pot. I tried to get information here and enjoy other people.

Guess I'd better apologize to everyone here for adding to the FLUFF, even when I wanted this thread to die.

If you were complaining about the lack of interesting stuff on here of late and the fact that there was too much stupid banter and discussion about worthless subjects why did you join in so fervently? Why not stop right now? You don't have to just go along for the ride with the morons. If you prefer things be different, change them for yourself. I'm not writing people off. I'm hoping they will change. I would hope the same for you.

My goal isn't to have a showdown with you and run you off dweb with a "poll". I want you to take a look and see that maybe you want the same thing I do and simply do your part. You don't have to do it the way I do either, just change it however you think you can. I'm going to go with what I believe will work best and you can try what you think is best.

 

[JohnK]

The moron goal was to surpass the 1,213 posts of the Hellooooo thread on LRO. It is ironic that Jack helped achieve this. atriot: