Bear Hunting - With a Spear

[SGaynor]

Damn...Speared the bear at ~40 feet. That took some brass ones.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...id=hp_no-name_hp-in-the-news:page/in-the-news

Read the comments for your bleeding heart outrage.

 

[kk88rrc]

Agree on having some brass ones.... do not agree with bear baiting. Might have been different if he had tracked the bear without baiting.
The bear baiting law is almost always on the ballot here in Maine and last vote passed with a very small margin IIRC.

 

[emmodg]

“as humane and ethical as one could get in a hunting situation on big game animals.”

What? I can't think of anything as ethical and humane as bear-baiting and then keeping your fingers crossed that your able to throw a SPEAR (in the 21st century) well enough to not only hit the large animal but eventually kill it! Fucking stupid! Is there anything to be celebrated here?

Just when you think burning and looting is low enough on the animal scale....

 

[D Chapman]

Really? That spear was like 4" wide and I assume it was sharp like a razor blade. He could have hit the bear in the leg and it would have still bleed out. A broadhead used on a hunting bow is about 1.25 to 1.5" wide. Just as easily it too could have hit the gut or whatever.

And I don't understand the baiting laws. You can hunt under an apple tree and that's fine, but if you place apples on the ground that's a no-no. You can hunt on the edge of a corn field, but if you dump corn on the edge of a cornfield that's a no-no. It's dumb. You can bait fish (except trout), you can bait criminals, you can bait women....but you can't bait food.

 

[SGaynor]

Normally, I'm not a supporter of baiting (other than natural food sources/plots), but in this case, I don't have a problem. This guy was on the ground, less than 15 yrds from that bear, with spear in one hand, and his dick in the other. If anything went sideways, he could/would have been in a world of shit. It doesn't get more sporting than that.

t/j - Why I don't like baiting deer/bear? It brings them to one specific spot, picked out by a hunter. It's really very lazy, IMO. Food plots, natural sources are large enough that you really can't pin point the exact spot an animal is going to be, as you can with a 2' circle of food/barrel.

 

[D Chapman]

t/j - Why I don't like baiting deer/bear? It brings them to one specific spot, picked out by a hunter. It's really very lazy, IMO. Food plots, natural sources are large enough that you really can't pin point the exact spot an animal is going to be, as you can with a 2' circle of food/barrel.

Yeah, and you probably use a rifle that can hit a dinner plate at 500 yards, too.

 

[SGaynor]

Yeah, and you probably use a rifle that can hit a dinner plate at 500 yards, too.

But I don't know exactly where that plate is going to be: do I have perfectly clear shooting lane, or is it obscured by brush because it decided to not go to the spot I expected? Is that plate at 300 or 250 yrds?

Being dialed in to hit a paper plate at 300 yrds, and knowing that the plate will be withing +/- 10 yrds of that, is not hunting - it's shooting.

 

[msggunny]

He did a great job, and although I don't agree with the sportsmanship of baiting or using dogs, it is effective and helps to manage the population. Which is a large part of what modern day hunting is about.

These bleeding heart liberal animal lovers (i personally know a few) need to learn a bit of perspective. We can't have a healthy population of wild animals with out managing them. With few exceptions, the days of large herbivores (or omnivore like the bear) being able to have their population managed with a healthy predator population are over.


I see this shit all the time, people screaming "outrage!" at anyone who kills an animal, regardless of why. Its the same social media BS that is turning our political landscape into a circus. It shows the huge disconnect between those who have been raised rural and those raised urban (with some exceptions of course). You can say the same thing about the 2nd Amendment debate too.

Poaching is one thing, but a legally harvested animal is fine.

 

[Drillbit]

Putting a go-pro on your spear makes you a douche. Leaving it overnight makes you an asshole. The article says it only made it 160 ft and then died, but there is no way to say that for sure when it died without checking it. I would say he left it out there so he could brag his awesome spear skills killed the bear, something he couldn't say if he had to shoot it an hour later. It's irresponsible to leave a wounded animal in the woods. It's not safe for anyone else that might come around and I personally feel if you shoot (or spear, or whatever) something you owe it a death with the least amount of suffering you can reasonably accomplish.

 

[msggunny]

Putting a go-pro on your spear makes you a douche. Leaving it overnight makes you an asshole. The article says it only made it 160 ft and then died, but there is no way to say that for sure when it died without checking it. I would say he left it out there so he could brag his awesome spear skills killed the bear, something he couldn't say if he had to shoot it an hour later. It's irresponsible to leave a wounded animal in the woods. It's not safe for anyone else that might come around and I personally feel if you shoot (or spear, or whatever) something you owe it a death with the least amount of suffering you can reasonably accomplish.

Putting a GO-Pro on anything makes you a douche. Hunters do it all the time now, it actually helps them to assess their shot.

Ive seen deer run further with more damage. Leaving an animal in the woods is a douche call, but people do it all the time. The worst part of it is "I'm so savage!" bullshit. He's an actor, pandering to his audience.

Here is some real spear hunting:
https://youtu.be/x-km4egveks

 

[salvvia]

Now thats some spearing justified. SPEAR ,EAT,OR STARVE OR JUST GET EATEN BY A HIPPO WHILE YOU ARE GETTING SOME WATER

 

[emmodg]

I'm just trying to figure out why you would want to try and kill an animal with a spear? Why not a lawn dart? How about a sling shot? Maybe a nerf gun?

Sitting on a 5 gallon bucket with a shotgun on the edge of a cornfield trying to hit something the size of small shoe flying 30mph overhead and SEVERAL yards out is a world away from BAITING a fucking bear so he'll come to you. A 200 acre cornfield isn't "bait". A mature 15' tall apple tree isn't "bait". Finding an apple tree(s) and a good place to set up near it is sport. Finding a corn field and getting a good spot on it is sport. Walking out into the woods with bags of apples to throw on the ground and "lure" game is baiting. It's not sport. What is so goddam hard about putting some effort into your pastime? Making sport of it? Not finding an "easier way"?

 

[ERover82]

Bear go-pro spear hunting? It's novelty ego bullshit, an internet party trick, and this guy values it more than the high possibility of suffering or getting mauled. What a douchebag.

 

[SGaynor]

The article says it only made it 160 ft and then died, but there is no way to say that for sure when it died without checking it. I would say he left it out there so he could brag his awesome spear skills killed the bear, something he couldn't say if he had to shoot it an hour later. It's irresponsible to leave a wounded animal in the woods.

SOP for shooting deer, etc. with a bow is to wait 15-30 minutes before tracking it to allow it to lay down and bleed out vs. getting it amped up and running on adrenaline. They left it overnight because it was dark and didn't want to go into the night after a wounded bear. That is not uncommon, nor unethical, either - to go back the next day to track in daylight. in this case, it was about safety (it was bow season, so no one (should) had guns).

I see nothing wrong with what this guy did.

Edit: the go pro issue? He makes part of his living off of videoing his hunts. If you've got an issue with this guy, then I guess the Outdoor Channel is Satan incarnate.

 

[SGaynor]

Bear go-pro spear hunting? It's novelty ego bullshit, an internet party trick, and this guy values it more than the high possibility of suffering or getting mauled. What a douchebag.

Party trick? With the very real option of getting mauled by a wounded 400 pound bear? Really?

 

[ERover82]

Yes,
Go-pro elite hunter = douchebag
Make sense yet?

 

[emmodg]

Party trick? With the very real option of getting mauled by a wounded 400 pound bear? Really?

Is the possibility of being mauled by the animal you wounded for no other reason than you wanting to see if "you could kill it with a spear" part of the sport? I'm trying to uncover the sport and no one seems to be able to find it.

 

[rovercanus]

I catch Pokemon at work.

 

[pinkytoe69]

I see this shit all the time, people screaming "outrage!" at anyone who kills an animal, regardless of why.

I disagree with this because I don't think the "why" is irrelevant.

If "why" = "because I'm fucking starving", I doubt anyone other than militant herbivore types would take issue.

It's when "why" = "because I can" that pisses people off.

 

[emmodg]

I disagree with this because I don't think the "why" is irrelevant.

If "why" = "because I'm fucking starving", I doubt anyone other than militant herbivore types would take issue.

It's when "why" = "because I can" that pisses people off.

Very well put!

I get tired of people beating their chest with anger over another man's concern for an animal.

I climbed Everest because I can.
I built a stupid fast car because I can.
I wear a big Rolex because I can.
I wore a clown suit to work because I can.
I killed an animal with a spear because I can.

If you don't see the absurdity in that last statement you have a lot of growing up to do.