Glock vs Sig

kennith

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Kenny eats at Chick-Fil-A.......on a Sunday.

Danny is a book-learned prick that thinks an unlit firearm packing two rounds is an effective room clearing weapon at night, who believes style is more preferable than versatility and effectiveness, and who has his nose planted so far up the collective EE expo-chic asshole gasket that he's got people thinking Ho is an Asian centaur.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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Or how about this. I'll break into your house. I'll bring a shotgun and dress in all black. Before you shoot at me, turn on your flashlight and give me a warning before you shoot so I have something to aim at. Wear something sexy.
 

Ballah06

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I have to say that i am amazed at the fact that those with no prior military/tactical/common sense experience argue some of the really obvious things with some who do. I have to admit that compared to some on here, shit probably most, I don't know shit about engines, suspensions, etc, hence when those topics come up, I let the more educated than me chime in and I keep my pie hole shut. As far as guns go, I have shot a few here and there and I know what some on here are presenting as valud arguments are just downright funny and ignorant. Overpriced shotguns for home defense, no lights (given the situation, etc.); what tactical clown college did you graduate from? A handgun is lethal in the hands of a well-trained person, one's whose mindset is in the game and the person who is not some housewife hoping to pray and spray with a two-round shotgun, but rather someone who will go and clear the house methodically and most likely neutralize the threat. Like Kennith said, handguns are easy to use indoors and in the right hands as effective as, if not more effective, as some other boomstick some others are arguing for. Here is a question. Where do you keep this big shotgun at night? Under the pillow, next to the nighstand, in the closet? When you get woken up in the middle of the nihht, you better be able to get to that weapon fast and be able to use it effectively. A handgun with a flashlight (used as needed) answers that in my book.
 

kennith

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Meet me in the street. You bring your flashlight and handgun. I'll bring a shotgun. We'll walk 20 paces, turn and shoot.

If you get within twenty paces of me with a shotgun pointed in my direction, I'll literally shove it up your candy ass. Don't think I'll shove a foreign object up your ass? I've stood in front of a court overseas for nailing someone with an uncooked chicken.

You want a duel?

Name the time, and I'll meet your pompous ass in a place it's perfectly legal. I've got the coordinates on file and ready to go. Just hit a tanning salon before you leave, and don't bring your expo-chic backpack.

Somewhere alone the line, you got it in your head that you've met "people like me". No. You haven't. "People like me" will call your bluff when you drop a glove.

The ball is in your court. It'll be a long flight, and you'll be lucky to make it the rest of the way after you land, but if you do, you'll have the chance to draw on me and test your theory.

How much do you think you're worth? I ask, because I can score an audience and a boatload of bets. There's a lot of bastards out there who would love to see someone take me down.

Now, go ahead and be a smart-ass. Make your jokes, and perhaps post one of your little terse comments. That'll be the end of anyone taking your attitude seriously.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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Apr 22, 2004
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I have to say that i am amazed at the fact that those with no prior military/tactical/common sense experience argue some of the really obvious things with some who do. I have to admit that compared to some on here, shit probably most, I don't know shit about engines, suspensions, etc, hence when those topics come up, I let the more educated than me chime in and I keep my pie hole shut. As far as guns go, I have shot a few here and there and I know what some on here are presenting as valud arguments are just downright funny and ignorant. Overpriced shotguns for home defense, no lights (given the situation, etc.); what tactical clown college did you graduate from? A handgun is lethal in the hands of a well-trained person, one's whose mindset is in the game and the person who is not some housewife hoping to pray and spray with a two-round shotgun, but rather someone who will go and clear the house methodically and most likely neutralize the threat. Like Kennith said, handguns are easy to use indoors and in the right hands as effective as, if not more effective, as some other boomstick some others are arguing for. Here is a question. Where do you keep this big shotgun at night? Under the pillow, next to the nighstand, in the closet? When you get woken up in the middle of the nihht, you better be able to get to that weapon fast and be able to use it effectively. A handgun with a flashlight (used as needed) answers that in my book.

He won't take his own comments seriously. Just wait and see. Why should we?

Cheers,

Kennith
 
Jan 3, 2005
11,746
73
On Kennith's private island
I have to say that i am amazed at the fact that those with no prior military/tactical/common sense experience argue some of the really obvious things with some who do. I have to admit that compared to some on here, shit probably most, I don't know shit about engines, suspensions, etc, hence when those topics come up, I let the more educated than me chime in and I keep my pie hole shut. As far as guns go, I have shot a few here and there and I know what some on here are presenting as valud arguments are just downright funny and ignorant. Overpriced shotguns for home defense, no lights (given the situation, etc.); what tactical clown college did you graduate from? A handgun is lethal in the hands of a well-trained person, one's whose mindset is in the game and the person who is not some housewife hoping to pray and spray with a two-round shotgun, but rather someone who will go and clear the house methodically and most likely neutralize the threat. Like Kennith said, handguns are easy to use indoors and in the right hands as effective as, if not more effective, as some other boomstick some others are arguing for. Here is a question. Where do you keep this big shotgun at night? Under the pillow, next to the nighstand, in the closet? When you get woken up in the middle of the nihht, you better be able to get to that weapon fast and be able to use it effectively. A handgun with a flashlight (used as needed) answers that in my book.

You should be on a SWAT team. Don't ever forget your handgun and flashlight, though.

Ever been bird hunting with your handgun? You sound like a regular Annie Oakley. I'd like to see you pop some birds in flight with your handgun ( and flashlight, of course).
 

kennith

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Apr 22, 2004
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There used to be a street named after Kenny, but the name was changed because no one crosses Kenny and lives.

Yup. Just another smart-ass comment.

Next time you decide to write a check your ass can't cash, put the pen down before anyone notices.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Ballah06

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You should be on a SWAT team. Don't ever forget your handgun and flashlight, though.

Ever been bird hunting with your handgun? You sound like a regular Annie Oakley. I'd like to see you pop some birds in flight with your handgun ( and flashlight, of course).

Handguns were not made for bird hunting, kind of like shotguns were not made for room clearing. There is a reason doors are breached with ahotguns and then the breacher gets the fuck out of the way to let others do the actual clearing. Hence, you are not comparing apples to apples here. That is like me asking if you have seen shotguns used for accurate shooting at various ranges. I am by no means an expert at all things handgun, shotgun, rifle, etc. and neither do I claim to be, however when I hear dumb shit I speak up. Bottom line is that each tool and accessory has its use; debating completely against an item's usefulness (particularly when it's an argument solely based on fucko knowledge) is just silly and ignorant.

Here is another thing to consider when it comes to shotguns - what is behind and around the target you are shooting? I can place well-aimed and contained shots with a handgun, can you do the same with buckshot? What else are you going to hit? Can you even employ that weapon platform or force not to fire due to potential of hitting something you should not? These are some of the things some of us who know a little bit think about and take into consideration when posting in threads like this one.
 

1920SF

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I'm struggling to understand the issue with the lights on pistols-I get that the vast majority of firearms owners don't need a rail for any application truth be told. Likewise most folks who bother to buy a light probably don't buy a good one nor know how to use it (nor train with how to maninpulate it during clearing and shooting)-that said having a light is still better than not even for the layperson. If it provides the chance for target identification during that half of the time we call darkness and prevents you from shooting your teenager sneaking in after they are supposed to be home, or your arthritic dog who just shit on the floor, then it is worth it.

The likelihood of some asshole conducting a B&E to be tactically savvy enough to use the vulnerabilities that white light can produce against you is significantly lower than the user shooting someone or something unintentionally, including themselves.

Oh, and I would say neither a handgun nor a shotgun is an appropriate primary HD weapon given the choice-but that's a different discussion.
 

brian4d

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If you get within twenty paces of me with a shotgun pointed in my direction, I'll literally shove it up your candy ass. Don't think I'll shove a foreign object up your ass? I've stood in front of a court overseas for nailing someone with an uncooked chicken.

You want a duel?

Name the time, and I'll meet your pompous ass in a place it's perfectly legal. I've got the coordinates on file and ready to go. Just hit a tanning salon before you leave, and don't bring your expo-chic backpack.

Somewhere alone the line, you got it in your head that you've met "people like me". No. You haven't. "People like me" will call your bluff when you drop a glove.

The ball is in your court. It'll be a long flight, and you'll be lucky to make it the rest of the way after you land, but if you do, you'll have the chance to draw on me and test your theory.

How much do you think you're worth? I ask, because I can score an audience and a boatload of bets. There's a lot of bastards out there who would love to see someone take me down.

Now, go ahead and be a smart-ass. Make your jokes, and perhaps post one of your little terse comments. That'll be the end of anyone taking your attitude seriously.

Cheers,

Kennith

Literally, lol.
 

brian4d

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I'm struggling to understand the issue with the lights on pistols-I get that the vast majority of firearms owners don't need a rail for any application truth be told. Likewise most folks who bother to buy a light probably don't buy a good one nor know how to use it (nor train with how to maninpulate it during clearing and shooting)-that said having a light is still better than not even for the layperson. If it provides the chance for target identification during that half of the time we call darkness and prevents you from shooting your teenager sneaking in after they are supposed to be home, or your arthritic dog who just shit on the floor, then it is worth it.

The likelihood of some asshole conducting a B&E to be tactically savvy enough to use the vulnerabilities that white light can produce against you is significantly lower than the user shooting someone or something unintentionally, including themselves.

Oh, and I would say neither a handgun nor a shotgun is an appropriate primary HD weapon given the choice-but that's a different discussion.

Logic and common sense don't fly around these here parts.
 

brian4d

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So you can see exactly what you are shooting at and when you're in court trying to defend yourself, there is no doubt that you saw the threat.

This is a key statement here, one that was taught in my CC class here in NC. Along with attempting/preparing to utilize a non lethal method as well.
 
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Handguns were not made for bird hunting, kind of like shotguns were not made for room clearing. There is a reason doors are breached with ahotguns and then the breacher gets the fuck out of the way to let others do the actual clearing. Hence, you are not comparing apples to apples here.

So I guess when the guy with the shotgun gets the fuck out of the way so the guys with handguns can come running?

Here is another thing to consider when it comes to shotguns - what is behind and around the target you are shooting? I can place well-aimed and contained shots with a handgun, can you do the same with buckshot? What else are you going to hit? Can you even employ that weapon platform or force not to fire due to potential of hitting something you should not? These are some of the things some of us who know a little bit think about and take into consideration when posting in threads like this one.


Yeah, bullshit.

I bet if you were shooting at a hostage target at the range with a handgun 100% of your shots do not hit your target. I bet it would be the same result under extremely different circumstances and with a moving target. And you better hit the fucker in the head, too, because if he/she has a gun and you hit them in the gut, they can still return fire. Maybe they get lucky, maybe they don't. Maybe you get lucky, maybe you don't. I think I'd rather take my chances throwing a 1.5' spread at the guy vs a 1/4" single bullet.

But your point is mute anyway. You think a trained sniper takes a risk if there is potential of hitting something/someone in the background? The sniper does not take the shot unless the situation warrants it, and that's under a semi controlled situation. Same with using a shotgun in your home or anywhere else. If someone is shooting at you, or treating to do so, it really does not matter what's in the background. It could be a bus load of new born babies for all I care. It's about survival at this point. Nothing else really matters.
 
Jan 3, 2005
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On Kennith's private island
I'm struggling to understand the issue with the lights on pistols-I get that the vast majority of firearms owners don't need a rail for any application truth be told. Likewise most folks who bother to buy a light probably don't buy a good one nor know how to use it (nor train with how to maninpulate it during clearing and shooting)-that said having a light is still better than not even for the layperson. If it provides the chance for target identification during that half of the time we call darkness and prevents you from shooting your teenager sneaking in after they are supposed to be home, or your arthritic dog who just shit on the floor, then it is worth it.

Sure. Maybe if you were shooting at a possum in the yard at night. But come on. Just turn on the light switch. Unless you live in a home that's old as fuck, there is a light switch at every entry door into a room. Pretty sure that's been the building code for years and years and years.

I'm sure some dumbass here will chime in and say something like, what if you live in an old house and someone is breaking into your root cellar to steel some of your grandmothers canned green beans and the electricity has been knocked out by the storm and we're all huddled in the celler because a tornado is coming?

Some of the folks here are acting like you live in a 3rd world county or something and come up with some of the worse case scenarios. It's comical actually. It reminds me of the Geico commercial.

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brian4d

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So I guess when the guy with the shotgun gets the fuck out of the way so the guys with handguns can come running?

No, the guy with a tactical light and laser.


Yeah, bullshit.

I bet if you were shooting at a hostage target at the range with a handgun 100% of your shots do not hit your target.

I bet you're wrong.

But your point is mute anyway. You think a trained sniper takes a risk if there is potential of hitting something/someone in the background? The sniper does not take the shot unless the situation warrants it, and that's under a semi controlled situation. Same with using a shotgun in your home or anywhere else. If someone is shooting at you, or treating to do so, it really does not matter what's in the background. It could be a bus load of new born babies for all I care. It's about survival at this point. Nothing else really matters.

I love to see you telling this to the judge, you know, it's doesn't matter what's in the background.

See my comments in red.