Running synthetic line helps with the spooling issue and also with getting the roller fairlead out of the dirt, the hawse sticks out less actually it doesn't stick out at all. Mine has never shifted. I guess rolling around in the VA clay has different needs, a buried truck like most of the pics would be easier to winch with a top mounted design. Maybe its just me but that don't look fun to do or to clean out of every crack and crevice of your underside, grease points elec. connectors etc. I'll come down to MAR next year but probably ride along for the party and to help out on the trail.