First Drive: The Ineos Grenadier Is a Defender-G-Wagen Mashup That Forges Its Own Path
In the Highlands of Scotland, we were finally able to test billionaire Sir Jim Ratcliffe’s production 4x4 six years after it was announced.
The current exchange rate should make it better for the buyer. Even at $75k fitted out is reasonable.Been looking a few more recent reviews. Sounds like this thing will start at more like $65K and end up at $75K for the ones we would prefer.
those are called LR3s
Interesting. I bought my LR3 instead of an LR4 for exactly these reasons: the reliability of the 4.4 compared to the 5.0. Maybe I was biased from reading too many horror stories about timing chain tensioner guides and coolant crossover pipes. My LR3 is at 170,000 miles and ran flawlessly on an 11,500-mile road trip a couple years ago. Eventually it will become more hassle to maintain than I'm willing to stomach, but by then Ineos will have worked out the kinks in the early Grenadiers and I'll be ready to take that plunge.Yeaup, they're old now. My LR4 turns 10 this year, it doesn't seem that old. Most of the 3s are well on their way to (and a lot already passed) 200k... which says a lot about the platform. I missed out on an 07 LR3 HD with ~40k miles before I bought my LR4, but the 5.0 is a lot more special. If I had more than one car I would have been less inclined to go with the LR4. It "does it all" better than the 3 does. Including maintenance and breakdown anxiety... so I guess what I'm saying is it's a great Rover.
My feeling is if the body of a Rover is basically rust free mechanical stuff can always be repaired. Of course as you know I’m basing this on a ‘94 RRC and a ‘96 D1 plus have other cars to drive while they’re in the shop. While the allure of a “newer” vehicle like the Grenadier is there driving either Rover still brings a smile.My LR3 is at 170,000 miles and ran flawlessly on an 11,500-mile road trip a couple years ago. Eventually it will become more hassle to maintain than I'm willing to stomach,
Right there with you. Which is why I plan to take my 1998 LSE to the grave with me. I find the amount of technology in newer cars to be intrusive to the point of distraction (or needlessly complex - looking at you, Mercedes). You can turn most of that crap off, but you're paying for features you'll never use. I'm all in favor of improved mechanical safety technology but I don't need the car to beep at me, vibrate the steering wheel, or push me back into my lane when I'm trying to avoid a pothole. Since I only drive about 5,000 - 7,000 miles per year on average, my LR3 still has a lot of life left. Also, I'm generally of the mindset of buy high quality things, take care of them, make them last, and thereby consume less.My feeling is if the body of a Rover is basically rust free mechanical stuff can always be repaired. Of course as you know I’m basing this on a ‘94 RRC and a ‘96 D1 plus have other cars to drive while they’re in the shop. While the allure of a “newer” vehicle like the Grenadier is there driving either Rover still brings a smile.
I'm all in favor of improved mechanical safety technology but I don't need the car to beep at me, vibrate the steering wheel, or push me back into my lane when I'm trying to avoid a pothole.
PRNDL controls are a stalk on the steering column where wiper controls usually live. Putting it into park requires you to push a button on the end of the stalk. Who the fuck comes up with this shit?
But her stereo does work which is more than I can say for my LR4.
The saying we on occasion used while working in Liechtenstein was The Right Way, The Wrong Way, and the German Way!Putting it into park requires you to push a button on the end of the stalk. Who the fuck comes up with this shit?
Yes, same here and so far in life the philosophy has worked well.Also, I'm generally of the mindset of buy high quality things, take care of them, make them last, and thereby consume less.
Right there with you. Which is why I plan to take my 1998 LSE to the grave with me. I find the amount of technology in newer cars to be intrusive to the point of distraction (or needlessly complex - looking at you, Mercedes). You can turn most of that crap off, but you're paying for features you'll never use. I'm all in favor of improved mechanical safety technology but I don't need the car to beep at me, vibrate the steering wheel, or push me back into my lane when I'm trying to avoid a pothole. Since I only drive about 5,000 - 7,000 miles per year on average, my LR3 still has a lot of life left. Also, I'm generally of the mindset of buy high quality things, take care of them, make them last, and thereby consume less.
I don't need the car to beep at me, vibrate the steering wheel, or push me back into my lane
That's an odd statement, when the only time lane control goes off is if you've left your lane. You hate being reminded you've crossed the center line?I just won't buy a car with lane control. It drives me crazy.
That's an odd statement, when the only time lane control goes off is if you've left your lane. You hate being reminded you've crossed the center line?
Absolutely
I know what I'm doing and why, there are times where it makes sense to cross the center line.
Yes, when like passing. So if going to pass, and turn on the turn signal, my Taco doesn't prompt me to stay in lane.Absolutely
I know what I'm doing and why, there are times where it makes sense to cross the center line.