Considering your post you are right. Outside of town someone has set up a mud pit and periodically they have mud bogs. Most of the people there don't look independently wealthy but there they are, with their rigs built for one thing and one thing only. Strangely they look like they are having a good time.
INEOS Grenadier
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Can't put a price on happiness!
On a similar subject.
I worked at a startup providing aerial imagery to farmers. One of our interns which happened to be a son of a big customer was showing tractor pull videos at lunch, all mind-blowing. He exhibited a very above-average knowledge of ways to extract more power from an IC engine; I was curious and started asking questions.
Turns out, his family (at a time, prices vary) had a revenue of about $66M / year on corn alone.
$71500 to start with the “editions” at just under $80k.
Woooof. So a used LR4, a timing chain service at 150k, a motor and trans replacement at 250k, and $40k+ leftover for a used Cayman S.
Woooof. So a used LR4, a timing chain service at 150k, a motor and trans replacement at 250k, and $40k+ leftover for a used Cayman S.
Yeah, with how long most modern autos last, the financial logic of buying a new car makes zero sense to me.
You're basically paying tens of thousands extra for the right to devirginize something...
$71,500 base
$79,190 or plus $7,690 for the Trailmaster (get a pretty good amount of equipment for $7,690)
$89,925 or plus $10,735 to have it my way (other than white paint, leather, 17" alloys, winch, roof rack, couple other things...not at all worth $10k extra)
Verdict: fuck it
$79,190 or plus $7,690 for the Trailmaster (get a pretty good amount of equipment for $7,690)
$89,925 or plus $10,735 to have it my way (other than white paint, leather, 17" alloys, winch, roof rack, couple other things...not at all worth $10k extra)
Verdict: fuck it
Bill is a "zonie" - he can't live without windows tinted charcoal black AND black leather seats
So my WAG is on him not spending hard-earned cash on a Grenadier. Maybe, maybe, $20k on an LR4 engine replacement is an acceptable penalty for four-wheeling one, but it will never, ever, be reliable enough.
$75k in today's money is far cry from $35k Land Rover wanted for a NAS 110 in 1993, and you get a lot more of a vehicle.
Fuck it as in fuck the Grenadier, not nearly worth the money. Did you see the fuel economy rating? 14-15 mpg on recommended 91 octane but will work on 87. On a 3-liter turbo 6. I get that mileage out of this 5.0 V8. Add in the negatives already mentioned (no flat cargo floor, goofy ipad screen) and it's no go. I don't even think it would be a good idea to order one just to flip it.
My window tint isn't ghetto black, it's legal. And no more replacement Land Rover engines for me. I may do timing chains if needed but that's about the biggest spend I'd do in maintenance/repair. I'm still on the hunt for the perfect (for me) near-daily-driver and off-roader. This LR4 is close, very close. Spent some time with my ex-wife's second ex-husband's new Bronco last weekend. It's a 2-door and so small inside it's comical. But that's what he wanted. He can't stand the noise from the hardtop and all the whistling air leaks in the hard top and around the windshield. Been back to the dealer a few times to try to address the issues.
My window tint isn't ghetto black, it's legal. And no more replacement Land Rover engines for me. I may do timing chains if needed but that's about the biggest spend I'd do in maintenance/repair. I'm still on the hunt for the perfect (for me) near-daily-driver and off-roader. This LR4 is close, very close. Spent some time with my ex-wife's second ex-husband's new Bronco last weekend. It's a 2-door and so small inside it's comical. But that's what he wanted. He can't stand the noise from the hardtop and all the whistling air leaks in the hard top and around the windshield. Been back to the dealer a few times to try to address the issues.
Struck a nerve, have I?
The fuel economy rating is simply honest, unlike most others. Seeing 15mpg quoted was refreshing.
Just disappointed in the Ineos. It's mantra about being the real defender is pretty ironic seeing as how it is going to end up being in the same category as the actual new defenders. Pavement mall crawlers that are too expensive to take off road, except for the occasional graded dirt road photo shoot.
After being on a few Tacoma forums lately (along with some Jeep and Colorado ones in the past) and seeing post like "I hydrolocked my engine but got it running, what should I do?", or something catastrophic along those lines, and the replies being trade it in, I'm of the mind I'll never buy a used vehicle again. My personal experience. Bought a used Colorado. Within two weeks of owning it the oil light came on. Took 3 qrts to get it to full. After much back and forth the dealer agreed to put a used engine in it. Fast forward a couple of years and in the parking lot of the local grocery a man approached me and said I was driving his old truck and want to know if I had had any issues with it. After replying yes he admitted it started burning oil so he traded it in. Let's face it, there are basically two reasons a vehicle is traded in. The owner is tired of it and wants something new, or there's something wrong with it.Yeah, with how long most modern autos last, the financial logic of buying a new car makes zero sense to me.
You're basically paying tens of thousands extra for the right to devirginize something...
A good used car to aim for is a lease return. Someone just rented the car for a few years. With a lot of initial maintenance covered and long maintenance intervals, chances are the maintenance hasn't been neglected.
I have to agree with Pinky.....buying a new car that depreciates by the tens of thousands after a year or two is ridiculous.
I have to agree with Pinky.....buying a new car that depreciates by the tens of thousands after a year or two is ridiculous.
That's only a problem if you plan on selling it after a year or two. Or in the case of an accident that totals it. I just bought a new 2023 Tacoma. I'm 61 and I plan on this being the last vehicle I buy. I looked at used. The choices were say a 2019 with 58k miles for 26-29k depending on the trim. Or a 2023 SR5 with the SX package I bought for 39.5 with 300 miles on it. It was well worth the 10-13k extra for a truck that had no history and 57k less miles.
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I can't fault you there. If you're buying to hold onto it for years & years then it can make sense. And Toyotas are the freaks of the automotive world and hold their value like no other. $10-13k for brand new, full warranty, 4 model years newer, and 58k less miles less is a no brainer. What I'm really talking about are the consumers I see out here that think nothing of buying a close-to or well-over $100k car and then considering it old after a few years and doing it all over again. There's 3 freaking Lamborghini SUVs at my kid's grade school. The trophy wives will all want something else before 36,000 miles are on the clock.
Disposable consumer culture is nauseating. Especially when people are doing it with cars that cost more than most houses. I can't justify spending $71K on a Grenadier at this point, as great as it looks. I have other priorities - that kind of money could take me on a very long, satisfying overland trip. I see myself becoming more like my friend in South Africa who drives a trio of Series Ones. But with mid-nineties vintage Landies.
I did that, but now I'm selling them, keeping my '65 109, and considering adding a Grenadier.
If I had the stomach to spend this coin on a car I’d find it difficult to go with a vehicle from a brand new manufacturer with no legit dealer support network. Who’s to say these will be reliable at all? This isn’t bolting together something entirely mechanical with all the electronic bits in it