INEOS Grenadier

[luckyjoe]

Yes, all the nanny stuff is annoying, if, you cannot turn it off. I remember someone on G&R couldn't shift into low range on his Tundra if he lowers air pressure first (TPMS safety setting). Some features have to be reset each ignition cycle. Some features (often limited from mfg'r to mfg'r) stay off until you turn them back on. For my Son't Subaru I installed an Auto-Stop-Eliminator - it's off when the switch is Off, and on when the switch is On - as it should be.

We'll see when we get our hands on a Grenadier, but it should be better than Toyota in this regard. There is an auto-Off dash button. Off-Road Mode turns it all off but has a speed limit of 70kmh (then it turns back on?). Also locker interlock between center/rear/front, and I do not know if this is switched or software. I'm sure there will be fixes similar to removing the shifter solenoid on the RRC and D1...

 

[Blue]

I crack up when I see an off road review video and the truck is beeping and dinging like crazy to warn the driver about the bushes and rocks nearby. Fuck all that shit. Every damn time I get into my wife's Mercedes it goes nuts telling me that the garage cabinets are in front of and to the right of the vehicle and my second car is to the left. No shit Sherlock, it's called parking in a garage. Who decided that every new car needs all this electronic crap? Must originate from the fact that women can't drive and park without hitting shit.

 

[RVR OVR]

Dang that is ugly.

I guess you don't like these, either?

 

[Blue]

I like that smurf blue on both trucks

 

[RVR OVR]

I like that smurf blue on both trucks

 

[RVR OVR]

This one looks good with the red undercarriage option.

 

[MM3846]

A few years ago camping with the Scout Troop, one leader pulled the canoe trailer with a new Tundra, another drove their Dodge PU, and a Honda Ridgeline puled the Troop box trailer. Tons of rain that weekend, and the vehicles all parked 75 yards down a decently rutted (now mud) slope to the camp site. The Tundra could not get out pulling an empty canoe trailer, then bounced, slipped and it made it out without the trailer. The Scouts then hand-pushed the canoe trailer up the hill. Dodge driver had their head in their hands, so I drove it out for them. Next, I drove the Ridgeline slowly, right up the hill pulling the loaded box trailer and not skipping a beat.

The new Honda iVTM or whatever system is really impressive. But it overheats and goes into failsafe pretty quick when it's overworked like all those setups. If you arent pushing it like a butthead, it'll surprise a lot of people. But going up slippery stuff if what it excels at. Once you start bumping and lifting wheels the system doesnt like it.

 

[RVR OVR]

After taking a weekend trip off to the dunes in Michigan and using every inch of my Sequoia's capacity, the reality set in that the Grenadier won't cut it and I cancelled the reservation. No more blue smurf for me.

 

[MM3846]

After taking a weekend trip off to the dunes in Michigan and using every inch of my Sequoia's capacity, the reality set in that the Grenadier won't cut it and I cancelled the reservation. No more blue smurf for me.

Bummer.

Anything smaller than the LR4 is a hard no go for me. It isn’t that big when it’s 2 adults, 2 kids, a dog and everyone’s shit.

 

[p m]

Bummer.

Anything smaller than the LR4 is a hard no go for me. It isn’t that big when it’s 2 adults, 2 kids, a dog and everyone’s shit.

We've done many cross-country trips in a D1, with 2 adults, 2 kids (coming up of driving age), a large dog, and everyone’s shit. It was fine.
That was already moving to college:

 

[MM3846]

We've done many cross-country trips in a D1, with 2 adults, 2 kids (coming up of driving age), a large dog, and everyone’s shit. It was fine.
That was already moving to college:

View attachment 64680

I’d put money down that the interior volume on a D1 and LR4 are almost identical. Yea the 4 is bigger but the doors on a RRC and D1 are like an inch thick.

 

[Blueboy]

For 2 adults and 2 Labs on an extended off highway trip prefer a LWB. Italy 2015

 

[Blue]

I completely fill my LR4 to the gills when it’s Mom, Dad, and the 2 boys. Moms always overpack for the kids and then you add a couple Tonka trucks, the dry food, the cooler, and next thing you know you’re strapping shit to the roof rack. We always ran out of room with the D2. The LR4 swallows a lot more cargo.

 

[Howski]

There’s no way. The cargo area alone of a LR3/4 is significantly larger than a D1 or D2 for that matter. Sure the interior finishes and door cars are bulkier but they are also much larger vehicles (which is noticeable on tight trails)

 

[p m]

I’d put money down that the interior volume on a D1 and LR4 are almost identical. Yea the 4 is bigger but the doors on a RRC and D1 are like an inch thick.

No, nowhere close. LR4's cargo compartment is almost as big as D1's with rear seats folded.

 

[MM3846]

No, nowhere close. LR4's cargo compartment is almost as big as D1's with rear seats folded.

Man I guess it’s been a few years since my D1 and without kids I never loaded it up a lot. It feels so similar from the driver’s seat.

 

[luckyjoe]

Two adults and two kids in our D1 and we always expanded to the roof rack. The MAR trip looked like the Camel Trophy. Years later, four adults in the LWB and we stuffed it all in, although this did not included camping. Add that gear and we are back to the roof. If the Gren goes though it will be for two adults plus extensive gear.

I do like our RRC LWB, but not better than our D1. Multiple ageing LR's are constant vigilance, so I'm looking forward to a new vehicle. My 109 will run forever and can be fixed with what you find on the side of the road. The RRC, not so much.

 

[RVR OVR]

When you bring toys and all the associated riding gear, spare parts, tools, etc to make sure the trip is not interrupted, it is hard to fit more than the driver. This trip I was on the only one in this vehicle as my kids joined me the next day in ther own. I could have fit somebody in the front seat, but that's about it.

If we do one vehicle, I use a giant soft case strapped to the trailer with all the suitcases in it and cram a bunch of stuff into nooks and crannies of the RZR. Probably need to look into a roof top carrier but so far haven't needed to since we are not camping.

 

[MM3846]

When you bring toys and all the associated riding gear, spare parts, tools, etc to make sure the trip is not interrupted, it is hard to fit more than the driver. This trip I was on the only one in this vehicle as my kids joined me the next day in ther own. I could have fit somebody in the front seat, but that's about it.

If we do one vehicle, I use a giant soft case strapped to the trailer with all the suitcases in it and cram a bunch of stuff into nooks and crannies of the RZR. Probably need to look into a roof top carrier but so far haven't needed to since we are not camping.


View attachment 64684

Looks like a good time

 

[RVR OVR]

Always is...even when the Rover gets to play trailer queen....