LR3/D3 lift?

Gride7

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Has anyone come up with any type of spacers yet to lift the LR3? Is it possible to body lift the LR3 maybe an inch or so?
 

nwoods

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Gride7 said:
Has anyone come up with any type of spacers yet to lift the LR3? Is it possible to body lift the LR3 maybe an inch or so?

Yeah, it's been done. There's a guy in SoCal building a race truck and he replaced the stock 2" urethane spacers with much taller (5" ?) steel spacers. He said he had to do some work on the steering column, but I don't know what all he had to do, nor will he describe it. He's keeping most of the tricks to himself because it's his race truck.

It's a neat project, but it has not been an easy conversion to say the least!
 

PacificGroveRover

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nwoods said:
Yeah, it's been done. There's a guy in SoCal building a race truck and he replaced the stock 2" urethane spacers with much taller (5" ?) steel spacers. He said he had to do some work on the steering column, but I don't know what all he had to do, nor will he describe it. He's keeping most of the tricks to himself because it's his race truck.

It's a neat project, but it has not been an easy conversion to say the least!

Is this race truck an air suspension LR3 or Coil suspension LR3?
 

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PacificGroveRover said:
Is this race truck an air suspension LR3 or Coil suspension LR3?

It started life as a normal SE with air suspension, 7 seats, rear air conditioning, terrian control, etc...

It now has King coils, limit straps, etc... Cool stuff.
 

Gride7

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Did the guy that owns that truck work at SouthBay LR recently? There was a tech there at one point that told me he built race trucks to run in baja.
 

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expectthebest said:
Don't flame me but I know very little about baja type truck racing. Are these trucks typically solid axle or IFS?

I'm no expert here but I believe all of the Trophy trucks and buggies all run independent suspension.

Anyone?
 
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Most of the Trophy trucks run a solid rear and IFS front.

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PacificGroveRover

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nwoods said:
It started life as a normal SE with air suspension, 7 seats, rear air conditioning, terrian control, etc...

It now has King coils, limit straps, etc... Cool stuff.

Why did he choose the LR3 as his race truck platform?
 

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Google translate.
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CharlieFoxDelta

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A lift on the LR3 would be overkill IMHO. If the look and performance is what you're after, you can relatively easily mount on some 33" tires with minor fender trimming.

Just my $0.02.
 
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CharlieFoxDelta said:
A lift on the LR3 would be overkill IMHO. If the look and performance is what you're after, you can relatively easily mount on some 33" tires with minor fender trimming.

Just my $0.02.

and youve seen this done?
 

garrett

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expectthebest said:
If the Trophy trucks us an IFS set up, why is it considered so bad for Land Rover?

those trucks are set up for speed, more speed and LOTS downward travel to minimize impact. (notice how low they are) hardly something you can compare to a robust trail truck. IFS is fine and dandy, but it is far from being as stout as a solid axle setup. not to mention ease of service.
Humvees run independent with portals and they break half shafts left and right. a 4Runner half shaft is more stout then a Humvee though. that's hardly something you can fix on the trail quickly.
 

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garrett said:
those trucks are set up for speed, more speed and LOTS downward travel to minimize impact. (notice how low they are) hardly something you can compare to a robust trail truck. IFS is fine and dandy, but it is far from being as stout as a solid axle setup. not to mention ease of service.
Humvees run independent with portals and they break half shafts left and right. a 4Runner half shaft is more stout then a Humvee though. that's hardly something you can fix on the trail quickly.

It's interesting you bring up the 4-Runner IFS. I was looking under my Dad's 91 Toyota pickup on Saturday and noticed it has a fron IFS. This actually surprised me. I see these pickups lifted all the time. Do they have lots of problems due to lifting? I havn't heard of many. If they don't have problems, why would the LR3?

By the way, I'm not being argumentative here, just trying to learn something.:bigok:
 
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expectthebest said:
It's interesting you bring up the 4-Runner IFS. I was looking under my Dad's 91 Toyota pickup on Saturday and noticed it has a fron IFS. This actually surprised me. I see these pickups lifted all the time. Do they have lots of problems due to lifting? I havn't heard of many. If they don't have problems, why would the LR3?

By the way, I'm not being argumentative here, just trying to learn something.:bigok:

you might not have noticed the IFS under alot of toyota pickups as a ton of those trucks go the SAS route using a dana or an older toyota solid axle. there are IFS lifted toyotas, but they dont perform anywhere near as well as the SAS trucks..
 

garrett

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yeh what Gil said. lots of the 4Runners had solid axles under them. the Toyota Hilux is a very popular choice in just about every other continent and for good reason. they are a very solid truck. many of our troops on foreign soil are using these very trucks.

the company i work for has one IFS truck for off road training and while it does just fine, it is far from the solid axle FJs or 4Runners that we use. i just spent 5 days (10 hours a day) in one and we hit just about everything there was to hit on the trails. haha.

you're are just very limited with the IFS system all the while being a weaker system that is less field servicable.