Problems w/ off-roading??

Chris-St Louis

Chris-St Louis

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If its working for you, I wouldnt say you are wrong. In fact, Rover knew about trouble with them on the Calloway p38.
 
scottjal

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I was under the same impression, how can a K&N be bad? I used one in all my cars up to the LR and then the week after I put it in my MAF died, literally dozens of posts I found on that. In my opinion the MAF in LR's is just too damn sensitive and you have to take "special" care of it unlike many other cars. Still on the fence about the worse dirt collection of the K&N, I think a sticky oil would clean better than paper. Anyone have links to studies that back that up? I would like to read them.

So on LR's that leaves you with a paper filter and hopefully a snorkel. What about something like a K&N pre-filter? Probably have to "customize" it to get it to work with the air box but as the pre filter is upstream of the air filter which will catch any stray oil I think that would make it safe to use.

Too bad we couldn't retrofit an oil bath air filter system, I think those deal best with lots of dust. Sucks to clean them though.
 
Nomar

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XtremeMarine said:
Yeah, I am so sick. LOL. I had A ONE night stand with ONE high school JUNIOR. And I will be labelled and verbally assaulted for life because of it.

You deal with dead people EVERY day simply so that you CAN touch women, (or is it men) sexually without being smacked or arrested. All right then.

I may be the kettle; but you are most definitely the pot. Or is that pot-head?
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I've never had any interaction w/ you before, but this is a pretty sleezy statement that I'm guessing you can't back up with any documentation...

FWIW,I've used a K&N w/ oil since 1999 in a 91 RR. No problems. Paper in the others, no problems.
 
Roverlady

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I'm not one to jump in and defend one person or another during these webfights (I prefer to stand on my own as I'm sure do others)...

but the comment above was definitely WAY out of line and unnecessary for this discussion. You guys both have your beef, but it seems only the "Xtreme" Daniel would consider an action like that above. You have obviously never met Chapman in person.
 
slangel

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XtremeMarine said:
Yeah, I am so sick. LOL. I had A ONE night stand with ONE high school JUNIOR. And I will be labelled and verbally assaulted for life because of it.

You deal with dead people EVERY day simply so that you CAN touch women, (or is it men) sexually without being smacked or arrested. All right then.

I may be the kettle; but you are most definitely the pot. Or is that pot-head?
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That is quite enough!! I have tried to be nice to you and put things aside. BUT as stated before you have stepped so far over the line it is disgusting. What Chappy does for a living makes me put him in high regard, it takes a certain person to be able to deal with people under circumstances. You are sick and you need every kind of help there is.
 
Roverlady

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Nomar said:
Hmmm. "This required a bit of scrubbing with a soft toothbrush and some throttle body cleaner."

Crest or Oral-B?
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Jeff, don't you get a lifetime supply of toothbrushes?! You should be SET with clean Rover parts!! ;)
 
Steve

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I bet he's got a handful of those individually wrapped toothbrushes in his back pocket. You know the ones that are so stiff they make your gums bleed?
 
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scottjal said:
I was under the same impression, how can a K&N be bad? I used one in all my cars up to the LR and then the week after I put it in my MAF died, literally dozens of posts I found on that. In my opinion the MAF in LR's is just too damn sensitive and you have to take "special" care of it unlike many other cars. Still on the fence about the worse dirt collection of the K&N, I think a sticky oil would clean better than paper. Anyone have links to studies that back that up? I would like to read them.

So on LR's that leaves you with a paper filter and hopefully a snorkel. What about something like a K&N pre-filter? Probably have to "customize" it to get it to work with the air box but as the pre filter is upstream of the air filter which will catch any stray oil I think that would make it safe to use.

Too bad we couldn't retrofit an oil bath air filter system, I think those deal best with lots of dust. Sucks to clean them though.
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Do a search on K&N and ISO 5011. There's one fellow who's done the study. K&N generally underperformed on most every test. Original site no longer has the study, but if you surf around long enough, you'll find it.

Only one other test out there that I know of. Generally ranked filter media as follows:
#1 - paper
#2 - gauze/oil
#3 - foam/oil
 
az_max

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I can't find it in a quick search, but even K&N's own propaganda shows the filter allows larger microns of dust through and depends on the oiling to catch larger particles. In street or track driven cars that might be a good trade off for more air intake. For off-road vehicles that may see large amounts of dust, sand or bugs, give me a paper filter. Maybe even a prefilter if it will fit.

Non-certified since 1971 :patriot:
 
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