raised air intake? What's the point?

[sean]

hmm what part of slow didn't you understand. i never said anything about high speed cornering, not something i do in my truck. but do us a favor see how fast you can take it until you roll it, maybe you can make the darwin awards. at the least remove your dna from future generations.

 

[rdoane]

PacificGroveRover, head over to www.pirate4x4.com, they'll understand you there.

 

[SCSL]

:yawn:

 

[sean]

i don't think he's man enough for pirate. maybe LRO

 

[justinhaaga]

you guys are crazy fo sure a land ROVER DIScVERY 3 LR3 would roll over anythang you homies would ever want to drive on. For godsakes, LAND ROVER made it backed by built FORD TUFF. YOU SEEN A f350?? PLZ. SO what if they like to roll down the street in bling blang style then on the trail blastin AC and MC HAMMER turning the "sand" button on and blasing bast your ACE DII that's on fire, FUCK YeAH!!! AND A d1 SHIT my ABS DOSEN;T EVEN WORK!!!!

all you posers are just jelious cuz they can afford 1 and you can't!! GO MAKE SOME GREEN and go buyyy a realz offroader!

I'd rather have elemet tho, just so much more styleee, yo chris homey, back me up!

 

[sean]

the element is the shiznik. throw on some lambo doors then you have some "bling"
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[PacificGroveRover]

hmm what part of slow didn't you understand. i never said anything about high speed cornering, not something i do in my truck. but do us a favor see how fast you can take it until you roll it, maybe you can make the darwin awards. at the least remove your dna from future generations.

I cannot call you a liar, but I know JSQ would not mix words and he would call you a liar!

Well since you dont like LR3's, any reasonable Poseur can only assume your not talking about handling and wheeling, in the same breath, in your LR3 loaner? You would not be caught dead wheeling in an LR3 loaner with the Land Rover Nazi's would you?

Now if you want to compare your DII w/ACE and a air suspension LR3 regarding handling, then you truly don't understand the cross linked air suspension of an LR3. It's what you love to hate man come on (know thy enemy). While you your DII is rocking back and forth while your picking your lines, the LR3's trick air suspenion is pushing those wheels deep out of the wheel wells keeping the handling of the LR3 very stable, almost goofy feeling stable (that's the very reason I do not have to pick my line...your observation). This very "poorly" engineered air suspension can put the LR3 in situations that the DII/DI would probably roll-over in. Somebody needs to step up and help Sean.

 

[sean]

so you can't rember 2 pages back when i talked about the crosslink of the air suspension acting like solid axles. maybe you need to reread everything before you post, maybe you can keep your shit straight.
fyi the air suspension is softer than springs and makes the lean worse.
when you get the long travel shocks installed maybe you can come back here and we will discuss wheel travel.
as for roll over the LR dealer here has a 45 degree side angle, on there test coarse they had to stop useing it because the lr3's couldn't handle the angle like the d1 and 2's

 

[PacificGroveRover]

so you can't rember 2 pages back when i talked about the crosslink of the air suspension acting like solid axles. maybe you need to reread everything before you post, maybe you can keep your shit straight.
fyi the air suspension is softer than springs and makes the lean worse.
when you get the long travel shocks installed maybe you can come back here and we will discuss wheel travel.
as for roll over the LR dealer here has a 45 degree side angle, on there test coarse they had to stop useing it because the lr3's couldn't handle the angle like the d1 and 2's

Yes I read that! Talking about something and understanding something are two opposing things; that is JSQ's central value! The reason JSQ is the Field Marshal is that he knows the enemies capablities, you are unforunately not well studied. The great sean states.....the LR3 air suspension is softer than springs and makes them lean worse...end quote". Somebody step up and help him...please.

 

[PacificGroveRover]

Sean

The cross linked air suspension has been engineered to replicate a solid axle, but in Land Rover's pursuit of solid axle replication via a cross linked air suspension, it got some extra benefits.

 

[gordonwh]

and how well will all the cv joints handle that extra load of 32" but comparing it to any solid axle truck is wromg compare it the other suv's of it's class, explorers, trailblazers, x3's.

Sean,

I _am_ comparing the D3 to solid axle rovers. _Not_ Hondas/Xtrails etc. I've done 30 000 km in my D3. With 32" tyres. No problems. That's included:

1. A 2000 km trek through the Gibson and Gt Sandy Deserts, towing a 1.5 tonne trailer. In 25 hours.

2. Three gymknana comps, where we scored 1st, 1st and 3rd.

3. A 6000km trek across the Nullarbor Plain and back.

They're not the same pissy little CVs you have in the D1/D2 you know,

I have done only a few simple mods - the bullbar, tyres, added underguards and sill protectors. Other than that, it's standard, and easily accomplishes things my D1 could never do without lockers and 33" tyres.

Oh, and yes, it's faster

 

[gordonwh]

as for roll over the LR dealer here has a 45 degree side angle, on there test coarse they had to stop useing it because the lr3's couldn't handle the angle like the d1 and 2's

I find this highly unlikely. The D3 has a wider track, can be lowered by 40mm or so and a lower centre of gravity. it should romp it in - unless either the tyres gave way, or the driver was trying the side-slope in 'off-road' height.

Cheers,

Gordon

EDIT: Actually, leaving the DSC on might amplify any lateral slip as well. I always turn it off when off-road.

 

[sean]

it has to be done in high mode or you won't clear the drop that leads into it.

 

[SCSL]

the LR3's trick air suspenion is pushing those wheels deep out of the wheel wells keeping the handling of the LR3 very stable, almost goofy feeling stable (that's the very reason I do not have to pick my line...your observation). This very "poorly" engineered air suspension can put the LR3 in situations that the DII/DI would probably roll-over in.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

wait,,,,no, sorry,,,I've got control now,,,, wait................

 

[SCSL]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

ok, sorry, I've got it under control................

 

[SCSL]

:smilelol: :smilelol: :smilelol: :smilelol:

.................................................ok, sorry.

 

[gordonwh]

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

wait,,,,no, sorry,,,I've got control now,,,, wait................

Well, once you've managed to compose yourself, if you've anything intelligible to add, please do.

Sean, if it has to be traversed in high mode, then how does a stock D2 get over it? Surely the height can be dropped whilst on the lateral slope - you _can_ adjust the height whilst on the move (a trick I use quite often when squeezing past trees on a lateral sloping track. Regardless, it's probably more due to the tyres or having the DSC activated. The D3, being rather heavy, really does benefit from wider tyres.

Cheers,

Gordon

 

[SCSL]

Well, once you've managed to compose yourself, if you've anything intelligible to add, please do.

OK, sorry about that.
What I really think is..............

....:smilelol: :smilelol:

....:rofl: :rofl:

(ahem... ok. sorry)

 

[gil stevens]

Hey Gil your contradicting your Field Marshal JSQ. He had this to say about the LR3......................"It may not be expedition-worthy as Leslie has stated but it's mind-boggling computer-driven capabilities make it the most kick ass stocker LR to date....superb drop and articulation of the air suspension and the impressive grip of the terrain response.....!" Now your going to say, A HARDCORE BADASS off-roader, you did not quote me correctly Mr. Poseur. Split hairs if you want, but which Land Rover stocker is a hard core badass out-o-da-box?

I had to cut and paste a little but that was JSQ's message! I think the key words for you would be "PRE PRODUCTION" or you were just trying to suck up to your Field Marshal!

for starters im not sure what this field marshall shit is all about, but i can tell you this, i dont know JSQ, nor am i trying to write in accordance to his previous posts. just because we, much like just about everybody else in this thread happen to realize that you are wrong doesnt mean im sucking up. look at your posts man.. your like a whiny little kid. your so stupid that you didnt even notice that i was saying the LR3 is a good vehicle. bottom line. its just not the second coming of the unimog. what you dont see is that your super duper tricky daddy air suspension that can and will lift you over every obstacle, obstacles that will turn every prior rover on its roof [:smilelol: ], is the same air suspension that can leave you on your bumpstops 5 miles from pavement. how is your super machine going to get back to civilization then smart guy? exactly, hooked to a backhoe..

while i can see your perspective, i mean you just dolled out $40k+ for this off-road machine. of course you want to believe its the greatest thing ever to roll out of solihull. but obviously your also a very defensive rock headed moron, who absorbs every bit of marketing ploy as it were fact, and refuses to see what the limitations of your vehicle are.

at least gordon uses his machine and is intelligent enough to acknowledge certain limitations and the fact that this platform is 24 months old, and the true test is longevity. something none of us know just yet.

also, your statement about not having to pick lines, and just being able to drive straight thru in your mean LR3 shows what a tool box clown you really are. a CR-V can run a fire road without picking a line. i think you should post some pics of you hammerin your LR3 where other rovers cant go. that would probably shut everybody up.

 

[draaronr]

I appreciate that, although it is completely unnecessary.... the IS Dweb, afterall.


I will, however, defend JSQ. Jack does speak very forthrightly. You know exactly what he's thinking. He isn't afraid to step on toes. He is exceptionally knowledgeable. Yes, he may rub people the wrong way, and conversely, a lot of people rub Jack the wrong way. That's just who he is. But it would be wise to value any facts that he presents..... whether you think he's a prick or not, if you can take it all in stride and look at the facts within anything he says, you will do well.

FWIW.....

Leslie how could you. You said Jack and Rub in the same sentence. :smilelol: