They make me dizzy.WillTN said:
Looks to me like they'd hang up a lot, depending on where you off-road.
Dunno how they'd hold up, the one weld I can see pretty well isn't very pretty.
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Looks to me like they'd hang up a lot, depending on where you off-road.
Dunno how they'd hold up, the one weld I can see pretty well isn't very pretty.
WillTN said:
They are called sliders for a reason. Agree with Tom in that these don't appear to be designed with that in mind. Looks like they'd get hung up on all kinds of stuff.
Why not just add some plating to the bottom? Then again I don't like tubing. Tubing belongs on Jeeps.
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roverover said:
The problem is not the "slamming down", it's the rotating and twisting.
Yes, the riggers used to mount a frame mounted slider will flex, to a point. But if the actual frame is scabbed and gussets are used, this could be very minimal.
But, like what John said he did, (adding a support to the slider and extending it to the frame) is just a horrible idea. You should always avoid connecting your body to your frame. So really, I'm not surprised this did not work 100%.
There is a way to do this and it would work (sill not getting distorted, or slider hitting the doors). The problem you face is just like what's pictured above - more shit to get hung on. The mounting would need to be moved up on the frame, and that creates a lot more work.
Wrong word...delete contest...enter agree.... My eighth grade english teacher would be slapping me right now.
I agree that the further out they sit the more twisting force will be applied. I like the nerf bar design in that it does help with the small moveable obstacle like a tree to save the door but that still doesn't warrant leaving them on if you play in the rocks. Each of us wheels in different terrain and what works for one doesn't mean it will work for everyone. The only thing we can agree on is that we disagree.
Has anyone ever attempted a frame only system with connecting the frame rails together and heavy reinforcement?
I agree that the further out they sit the more twisting force will be applied. I like the nerf bar design in that it does help with the small moveable obstacle like a tree to save the door but that still doesn't warrant leaving them on if you play in the rocks. Each of us wheels in different terrain and what works for one doesn't mean it will work for everyone. The only thing we can agree on is that we disagree.
Has anyone ever attempted a frame only system with connecting the frame rails together and heavy reinforcement?
garrett said:
True... I just found that picture in the dweb photo gallery on some disco with 29" swampers, they're not mine...
D Chapman said:
I have not seen one twist that did not have the nerf bars on it. The twisting is caused by the force being applied farther away from the attachment point (leverage) If you make the attachment point all the way in to the frame they will flex more. The only way to make them so they might work is to remove the existing body outriggers and replace them with a substantial mount that was one piece with the mount for the slider and add another mount of equal sustanance in the middle, then it may be as good of protection as a proper sill mount.
I believe if your attachment point is somewhat centered to the slider that they will not rotate Mine are crushed almost flat at one point and did not twist or flex into the body(a lot) If you stick a lever that moves the contact point outside the attachment point it will flex which will cause it to rotate and a lot of the other flex is caused bythe shape and of course quality of the material Remember the strogest shape is a honeycomb!!
knock on wood, my ROUND Nerfs have been free thus far of the ills that haunt those with the square nerfs...I've also welded the two plates underneath together http://picasaweb.google.com/NRGEyeCare/GemsRoverPics/photo#5106465750033580082
roverover said:
This is patently WRONG.
Rotation occurs not because of leverage, but due to the nature of sill-mounted slider construction and the manner in which force is applied.
I have seen RTE sliders with no scratches whatsoever on the nerfs that still rotated enough to block the doors. I have seen many more conventional sill-mounted sliders that twisted enough to deflect the front fender even without obstructing the doors.
JSQ said:
I'm pretty sure that the rockware sliders have been around for a long time and have always been an adequate way to prevent this problem.
I have come down on mine on the slider part and on the nerf portion many times and never had this problem.
WillTN said:
Similar to what I have planned except I want to tie into the sill as well as the frame and plate the middle, kind of like mini boat sides.
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roverover said:
Either you fail to read or you fail to comprehend. Give it another shot, maby it will sink in.
Cheers,
Kennith
roverover said:
Sometimes when a person hurls an insult, the spelling is lost...
Cheers,
Kennith
Didn't you read Dan's post? (I think it was his). You don't want to tie your body to your frame. That's why there are all those rubber mounts between body and frame.Rover grenade said:
kennith said:
So what did he mean Mr Maby??
It said they were twisted without a scratch on the Nerf, so they set down on a narrow enough obstacle that it only contacted the slider and not the Nerf and twisted it?