Seattle 5-oh punches woman for jay-walking
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OK, While I agree this encounter hurts public opinion of the LEOs in that city I do not feel that it demonstrates the overall downfall of laws in our society. While officers have discretion, there are many laws that are clearly stated where we SHALL arrest. What many people don;t understand is what constitutes an arrest. When you get a speeding ticket, you have been arrested and released on a summons. While you are in custody and not free to leave, certain criteria must be met...and resisting arrest would be one of those criteria that would escalate the circumstances.
Whether you think J-walking a BS ticket is besides the point. LEOS are not exactly what you see in the movies, out on their own agenda. Maybe Washington state is different than VA, but we are tightly monitored and are held to a higher standard.
Should BS codes be taken off the books, should LEOS be looking out for terrorist and ignore other crimes? Sure, common law crimes like B&E, Robbery, Murder etc are always going to be a top priority LEOs to safeguard lives and property, but the little laws need to be protected as well.
It comes down to the broken window theory. If you have an abandoned warehouse and there is a broken window and no one comes to fix it, it'll end up with more broken windows and trashed...where as a warehouse that is maintained will send a warning to crime that will keep it from being trashed.
FYI, taxpayers will only be effected if there are criminal charges brought against the officer and he is convicted. Any civil charges brought against him later will be dealt with then, but not payed with tax money. If he is found guilty in the criminal, then the civil will come from his pocket, not the department and taxpayers....and if he is found innocent on the punch and his actions, then the civil suit will be on the complaintant.
Whether you think J-walking a BS ticket is besides the point. LEOS are not exactly what you see in the movies, out on their own agenda. Maybe Washington state is different than VA, but we are tightly monitored and are held to a higher standard.
Should BS codes be taken off the books, should LEOS be looking out for terrorist and ignore other crimes? Sure, common law crimes like B&E, Robbery, Murder etc are always going to be a top priority LEOs to safeguard lives and property, but the little laws need to be protected as well.
It comes down to the broken window theory. If you have an abandoned warehouse and there is a broken window and no one comes to fix it, it'll end up with more broken windows and trashed...where as a warehouse that is maintained will send a warning to crime that will keep it from being trashed.
FYI, taxpayers will only be effected if there are criminal charges brought against the officer and he is convicted. Any civil charges brought against him later will be dealt with then, but not payed with tax money. If he is found guilty in the criminal, then the civil will come from his pocket, not the department and taxpayers....and if he is found innocent on the punch and his actions, then the civil suit will be on the complaintant.
ptschram
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adamsclarke said:
This is part of the problem. It shouldn't reflect badly on the police, it should reflect badly on the woman who was resisting.
It should not be a warning to LEOs to walk on eggshells, it should be a warning to citizens to be polite.
OTOH, LEOs have to drop the us against them mentality that so many have.
Update to this story: the woman who was punched apologized to the police officer.
Read all about it
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/archives/211652.asp
Read all about it
http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattle911/archives/211652.asp
Jaywalking is a slap to the face of law. It is dangerous for everyone. At least around here, people casually walk across crowded streets as cars grind to a halt, smiling as they take their time.
I don't fucking slow down. I speed up. I haven't got one yet, but I'll get one eventually. Watching them dive for the curb is a simple pleasure for me. I'm not bullshitting, either. The gangstas mostly recognize the Rover, even though they are the worst for this behavior, and will get out of the way.
Those college fuckers, however, seem to think it's funny. At least the home-boys know it's dangerous.
That bitch was resisting whatever he was trying to detain her for. The other bitch assaulted an officer of the law. He punched her. He shouldn't have, but it's all he could do. He had his hands full. That's because he was busy being surrounded, being heckled, being videotaped, and being too much of a pussy to handle a rag-doll. Admittedly, it's a pain in the ass when people do that.
He didn't need a fucking revolution. He needed a partner. That's why the classic LEO dog-pile exists. It's there to restrain someone without hurting anybody. He couldn't do it. He wasn't strong enough or skilled enough to restrain her.
PM is right about jaywalking. It is an indication of the amount of respect a society has for their nation.
Cheers,
Kennith
I don't fucking slow down. I speed up. I haven't got one yet, but I'll get one eventually. Watching them dive for the curb is a simple pleasure for me. I'm not bullshitting, either. The gangstas mostly recognize the Rover, even though they are the worst for this behavior, and will get out of the way.
Those college fuckers, however, seem to think it's funny. At least the home-boys know it's dangerous.
That bitch was resisting whatever he was trying to detain her for. The other bitch assaulted an officer of the law. He punched her. He shouldn't have, but it's all he could do. He had his hands full. That's because he was busy being surrounded, being heckled, being videotaped, and being too much of a pussy to handle a rag-doll. Admittedly, it's a pain in the ass when people do that.
He didn't need a fucking revolution. He needed a partner. That's why the classic LEO dog-pile exists. It's there to restrain someone without hurting anybody. He couldn't do it. He wasn't strong enough or skilled enough to restrain her.
PM is right about jaywalking. It is an indication of the amount of respect a society has for their nation.
Cheers,
Kennith