What's the latest on bringing in 300Tdi's?

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Wow, that is quite a form! One of the exemptions is:
Non-Chassis mounted engine to be used in a light duty vehicle or motorcycle that meets or will meet EPA regulations.

Is that referring to an engine that somehow DOESN'T mount to the chassis, or is it referring to a bare engine?
 
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Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was questioning your experiences. I was just asking you if you've seen a TDi seized. I know for quite a while when RN was importing 300TDi's for the NAS90 conversion there weren't any importation issues, the only problem was selling them as a kit to replace a compliant engine. Customs sees what we import, and gets a HTS code for each product. As recently as 12.21 we had a 300 long block come in from the UK without issue.

I haven't seen that form but I will look into it, importation has been a huge gray area for a long time, what is legal with who, and when, has always been debated.
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"We"?

I don't hide the name of my company, nor my name. I'm open and notorious, but everyone who makes the claims like you do hides behind a screen name and won't divulge the name of the company...

Harmonized Tariffs are VERY broad.
 
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"We"?

I don't hide the name of my company, nor my name. I'm open and notorious, but everyone who makes the claims like you do hides behind a screen name and won't divulge the name of the company...

Harmonized Tariffs are VERY broad.
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I said the name of the company in the comment you quote, RN- Rovers North. It was also mentioned in the post 33 by DCARR
 
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Dammit PT, quit raking the rookies over the coals for long enough to send me a quote for the parts I want from you!
 
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DiscoPhoto said:
Wow, that is quite a form! One of the exemptions is:
Non-Chassis mounted engine to be used in a light duty vehicle or motorcycle that meets or will meet EPA regulations.

Is that referring to an engine that somehow DOESN'T mount to the chassis, or is it referring to a bare engine?
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The TDi has never been tested to prove compliance and never will be.

I doubt anyone has been incarcerated for trying to import one, but the possibility exists.
 
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ptschram said:
The TDi has never been tested to prove compliance and never will be.

I doubt anyone has been incarcerated for trying to import one, but the possibility exists.
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So it is referring to the engine? It was worded strangely and seemed like it could have been referring to the vehicle itself.
 
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DiscoPhoto said:
So it is referring to the engine? It was worded strangely and seemed like it could have been referring to the vehicle itself.
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The 3520 is used for both vehicles AND engines. Go back to page 1 and read my post/link referring to this form...
 
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mbs13 said:
The 3520 is used for both vehicles AND engines. Go back to page 1 and read my post/link referring to this form...
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I saw that, I'm referring to that specific exemption, not the form as a whole.
 
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DiscoPhoto said:
As recently as 12.21 we had a 300 long block come in from the UK without issue.

I haven't seen that form but I will look into it, importation has been a huge gray area for a long time, what is legal with who, and when, has always been debated.
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A long block is a far cry from a "complete" engine. Parts can be imported with no problems but then it becomes cost ineffective to import it a piece at a time.

Your company SHOULD not have a problem importing anything as there could be several loopholes being utilized in order to sell the ROW Defenders to the NGO's here in the states and globally. I am sure your Import Compliance/Legal is on top of it. I dont know what your capacity is with that but it doesnt sound like youre involved and shouldnt really be all gung-ho about what can be done by the average man on the street. You wont be able to get those forms from recordkeeping and be able to post up here I am positive of that. (Sorry Mongo, that wont happen)
 
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A long block is a far cry from a "complete" engine. Parts can be imported with no problems but then it becomes cost ineffective to import it a piece at a time.

Your company SHOULD not have a problem importing anything as there could be several loopholes being utilized in order to sell the ROW Defenders to the NGO's here in the states and globally. I am sure your Import Compliance/Legal is on top of it. I dont know what your capacity is with that but it doesnt sound like youre involved and shouldnt really be all gung-ho about what can be done by the average man on the street. You wont be able to get those forms from recordkeeping and be able to post up here I am positive of that. (Sorry Mongo, that wont happen)
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Good point, I suppose I was being optimistic based on previous experience. Sorry if I misled you Tom.
 
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In 2 years you'll be sort of right (21years be free&clear of EPA on paper,prooving it will be different), you can look at it that way.
 
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So I can order a 300tdi thru Rovers North for installation in my 110...really...seriously...Rovers North is going to be able to have it shipped to my door...

And if you've never seen a 3520 you have never imported a 300tdi... You are so full of shit it's not even funny, just because you work for them, doesn't mean you have a clue about the process and that now has become abundantly clear...
Go back to selling over priced driveshafts... Yeah, the same one that idiot with the imaginary driveline shop is selling, but for even more money...as a matter off, over priced everything...
 
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mbs13 said:
A long block is a far cry from a "complete" engine. Parts can be imported with no problems but then it becomes cost ineffective to import it a piece at a time.

Your company SHOULD not have a problem importing anything as there could be several loopholes being utilized in order to sell the ROW Defenders to the NGO's here in the states and globally. I am sure your Import Compliance/Legal is on top of it. I dont know what your capacity is with that but it doesnt sound like youre involved and shouldnt really be all gung-ho about what can be done by the average man on the street. You wont be able to get those forms from recordkeeping and be able to post up here I am positive of that. (Sorry Mongo, that wont happen)
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FWIW-the engine I had seized was a long block.

As for posting up the form, why not? They are public record.

Anything can be brought into the US if one travels under other than a US passport (36 months, IIRC) or pays a bond (12 months, IIRC).

The risk of importing something potentially non-complying is that at any point in the future, CBP/DOT/IRS can contact you and demand that the buyer be identified so that the non-conforming item can be confiscated, absent that, your bond had damn well better be paid or you are screwed.
 
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So I can order a 300tdi thru Rovers North for installation in my 110...really...seriously...Rovers North is going to be able to have it shipped to my door...

And if you've never seen a 3520 you have never imported a 300tdi... You are so full of shit it's not even funny, just because you work for them, doesn't mean you have a clue about the process and that now has become abundantly clear...
Go back to selling over priced driveshafts... Yeah, the same one that idiot with the imaginary driveline shop is selling, but for even more money...as a matter off, over priced everything...
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If you'd like to, yes. But it sounds like it will be overpriced for you.
 
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Seriously...a complete 300tdi, not a block but a complete engine...with documentation and not a off road only motor...
And why would I buy from you guys when I can get the exact same parts, for less, including shipping from one of twenty vendors in the UK..

or from Justin...
 
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That I cannot promise, but you are welcome to call and see. They have certainly come in like that before, 2 of them are not more than 100 feet from me daily(during the summer).
 
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Come on, you said you it can be done so post up a quote for a 300tdi shipped to 85719...or can't you do that because you work as the night janitor...
 
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Well if you're actually interested in one I can talk to purchasing about finding one. The sales manager just confirmed we could bring one in if you want it. I can't quote shipping obviously as the last one sold to customer that picked it up at RN.
 
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Why do you need to find one? More bullshit, I want a new, road legal motor...
 
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