Why can you do one and not the other?

[bri]

I will answer your original question again. Since you did not get it the first time.

"Why is it accepted that people should be allowed smoke breaks at work, but you cannot have a shot at work. "

You can have a shot at work. Go for it. You can have a smoke at work too, just do it. But if there is something written in an employee hand book about either, then don't blame me if you get your ass fired.

The reason that many companies do not allow drinking at work is due to the liability of "allowing" people to get drunk. If someone were to drink at work and their work promoted this, then the company might be held liable for their actions. Since actions are impaired by drinking, the employer would rather make it against the rules in order to avoid liability. In some work places, being drunk could be putting yourself and others lives on the line. Even slight impairment.

The differences between being "impaired" by alcohol vs nicotine are obviously different and most people and employers recognize this. Since I believe that even you understand the differences as well, its a lame argument.

Please point me where nicotine impairment includes these:
--Impairment of perception, memory and comprehension
--Decreased sensitory response; increased reaction time
--Increased self-confidence; decreased inhibitions
--Sensory-motor incoordination; impaired balance

There are a lot of things that people can be addicted to, but I am am not aware of any addictions that will get you extra benefits in the workplace.

PS: I no longer smoke or drink.

 

[TurdFerguson]

I still cant believe that in a whole two pages, no one has quoted this yet...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B1PHRkadB_E

 

[DiscoJen]

I'm not nearly as big a prick with a buzz on!

Exactly! Why did you think that I suggested I build you a snazzy bar for your basement???? I haven't forgotten about finishing up the drawing plans either BTW; this first week at my new job is just busy as heck. Get that credit card ready to buy some silver glitter vinyl baby yeah! Check here for some lighting when ya get a chance.

 

[bovw]

I dont mean getting shit faced drunk. I mean a Shot in the morning and one in the afternoon. Like a Scotch Break.

Well Chris, some of us have a problem. If I take the top off a bottle of Scotch, I'm having 3 fingers in a tumbler X2 at a minimum. Not condusive to work.

 

[brianhoberg]

Yes, I do. They spend, about a hour a day weezing down thier cancer sticks, on the clock of course...Because it's their "right". Then you go out the door theres a pack of these junkies stinking up the place.

Then, they cant even get the used up ones in the ash tray outside. Yeah, thats real tough, You're just standing there anyways, put it in the fucking hole. No, these morons throw it in dry mulch so once a month we can have a small fire outside.

Meanwhile, I am a alcoholic. I am! I need my fix to take the edge off, but can I have my harmless Scotch. Shoot no, Thats a bad thing.

Chris, actually, it's funny you bring that up. I work at USAA. We pretty much are so big here (area wise) in San Antonio, we have our own zip code, no kidding.
They banned smoking from the premises period. They enforce this to the point that when you go through security to check in (much like military does to get on base) you better not be smoking or have a cigarette lit. they have denied access to the premises before to employees for smoking in their own cars.
Smoking on break? Not an option unless you drive in your car, off the property, and drive around to get your fix.
I smoked for almost 10 years. Quit cold turkey and don't like cigarettes except maybe when really, really drinking. Otherwise, a cigar now and then is my forte.
But, I'm glad I don't smoke and am not as dependent as I was on it.
As far as having the Glenlivet or Isle of Jura Scotch in the desk, man that would make work much more easier, but I can understand why they don't allow it. MY workplace doesn't support the habits or dependencies, pretty much period.

 

[Nomar]

So......these people get a smoke break on the clock??

 

[ptschram]

I worked for a place where the employees were exposed to airborne carcinogens yet I saw folks get suspended for smoking while in their cars driving into the parking lot! I couldn't see the justice in that. This same place also had bunsen-type burners at most work stations for QC applications.

In 1989 I made the decision that when I was at work, I was at work and not gonna do anything to impair my ability to do the job to the best of my ability. I think the issue for me is that a person is not working to their potential if they've had even a single drink. If I have even a single beer at lunch, I'm done for the rest of the day and a nap is far better for me than going back to work (or drinking a LOT more than just one).

I used to chain smoke in the shop (or at least as much as you can when rolling oyur own). I quit last October and promptly got deathly ill and crave cigarettes like you can't believe. I really wish my wife would quit, but then I wouldn't have an inexhaustible supply of nifty metal cans for the shop.

Give 'em Hell Chris!

PT

 

[antichrist]

But Bible doesnt say people shouldnt drink?

Oh, don't you know the wine spoken of in the bible was just grape jelly? :rofl:

 

[ptschram]

If the water was as nasty now as it was in biblical times, you'd want to drink wine too!

 

[cptyarderho]

Alcohol impairs you. Smoking does not.

The reason you can't have a drink on break is typically liability.

What a f'ing lame thread.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

 

[Chris-St Louis]

So......these people get a smoke break on the clock??

Disgustingly, yes. This place is pretty relaxed.. If its a couple of minutes, who cares.

but the women (Yes, It is the women out there for 10 minutes yapping about who knows what. Some dont even HAVE a cigerette in hand).

Of course, if they are disiplined, it's sexist and a glass ceiling thing.:banghead:

 

[Chris-St Louis]

Exactly! Why did you think that I suggested I build you a snazzy bar for your basement????

I figured.

Why do you think I'm installing a pole?

I haven't forgotten about finishing up the drawing plans either BTW; this first week at my new job is just busy as heck.

Like it? Hope you do! I'm not in too much of a hurry. Scotch pour just as well on the kitchen counter.

Get that credit card ready to buy some silver glitter vinyl baby yeah! Check here for some lighting when ya get a chance.

Oooooooooo I like that!

 

[Chris-St Louis]

Please point me where nicotine impairment includes these:
--Impairment of perception, memory and comprehension
--Decreased sensitory response; increased reaction time
--Increased self-confidence; decreased inhibitions
--Sensory-motor incoordination; impaired balance

How about the LACK of nicotine. Give a 1-2 packer a day no cigarettes, and tell me what you see?


--Impairment of perception, memory and comprehension ----Oh Yeah!

Decreased sensitory response; increased reaction time - Maybe... %50-50

--Increased self-confidence; decreased inhibitions - Unlikely.

--Sensory-motor incoordination; impaired balance - Certainly.


Look, Again, I am not talking wasted, I'm talking a shot to take the edge off.

 

[ArmyRover]

Nicotine is a drug. When youa re addicted to it, you NEED it to function properly.



Dont defend your nicotine addiction. You need it as much as I need booze.

I don't need it to function properly I get into situations where I can't smoke for 8-12 hours commonly because of the mission at hand.

So need it to function properly no, to be nicer while dealing with morons yes.

I'm not going to defend my habit, honestly I need to quit, but I just don't have the will power to accomplish it.

 

[Chris-St Louis]

I don't need it to function properly I get into situations where I can't smoke for 8-12 hours commonly because of the mission at hand.

So need it to function properly no, to be nicer while dealing with morons yes.

In your line of work, I think I would rather HAVE you Jonesing for a grit... As most people youa re shooting at ARE morons.. atriot:

But, in a office, in a cubicle... These people think Moses wrote it himself on the tablets on the way down the mountain that you are entitled to a smoke at work, anytime you think you need one. Its painful to watch these junkies sucking on their grit like a baby sucks a tit.

 

[antichrist]

If I have even a single beer at lunch, I'm done for the rest of the day and a nap is far better for me than going back to work

It's a bitch getting old isn't it? lol

 

[jim-00-4.6]

So......these people get a smoke break on the clock??

In an 8.5 hour scheduled shift, you get 30 minutes OFF THE CLOCK for meal break, and (2) 15-minute ON THE CLOCK "breaks".
That's how the company I work for does it, same where my wife works.
That's pretty much been how things are in just about every place I'm aware of.

 

[slangel]

It's a bitch getting old isn't it? lol

I remember you having more than one beer at lunch and you didn't have to take a nap!

 

[MarkP]

In an 8.5 hour scheduled shift, you get 30 minutes OFF THE CLOCK for meal break, and (2) 15-minute ON THE CLOCK "breaks".
. . .

Three Scotch breaks per day Chris?

Then again, in Germany the road brick layers would throw a case of beer on the center island and go to work. Yes, warm beer. But then it's not what those in the US call "beer".

 

[Chris-St Louis]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,355878,00.html

Its example making time!