with marijuana gaining legal status in many places...

Tugela

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In Washington the industry is just emerging (at least above board). Since retail outlets will be fairly constrained by zoning regulations and the numbers of permits issued, not to mention the numbers of permits to grow, my sense is that there won't be a big enough market for big tobacco to justify getting involved. At least not at the outset. I wouldn't be surprised if they are watching it closely, though. A neighbor of mine quit his job at a tech startup to start a pot farm in eastern Washington. He has a permit and everything lined up. It will be interesting to see how the market shapes up. Finding places to set up retailers seems to be a challenge. The list of places you can't sell pot (within X feet of schools, community centers, etc.) is long enough to make it tricky to set up a store.
 

Howski

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Seems like the alcohol industry would if anyone. Since you cannot smoke pot in public like you can cigarettes I'm not sure they'd have as much to lose as the alcohol industry. I think a good example of this is the zoning regulations mentioned above. These are very similar to liquor stores (in some communities, atleast) and that they can't be adjacent to residential properties, within x feet of a school, church, etc.
 

Mike_Rupp

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Liquor laws are the most inconsistent laws out there. In WA, I can't have my kids walk through the bar area of a restaurant, yet they can go right up to the bar at a winery.
 

bigred

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Just curious - for those who live in states where cannabis is now legal, how is life? Has it become a non event (other than the weed tourists), or are all of the 10 year old's high, and everyone moved on to crystal meth because of the gateway drug deal? Have the localities / states actually realized a bump in tax revenue? Is drug related crime down because people don't have to meet up in a sketchy dark corner to handle business?
 

emmodg

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I've got quite a few friends in Boulder and they aren't real fans of the "industry" there. Pearl Street Mall has become a "smoke fest". I've got a good friend that says her neighborhood smells like a dead show when the wind blows past a big pot warehouse near her.

To answer the question about big tobacco getting in on the action - I would have no idea why they WOULDN'T get involved once banks see safety and legitimacy in lending to the industry.
 

SGaynor

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My brother lives in Denver. He said it's not big deal (he partakes), but other than the pot tourists getting wasted out of their minds, no big deal.
 

jim-00-4.6

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I live in metro Denver.
First, fuck Boulder. It's always smelled like patchouli from the trustafarians. Whah, someone else is getting high. Need a fence around that whole place.
My office is in a warehouse area, many of which are now growhouses. When they turn on the exhaust fans, all you can smell is skunk weed.
Whatever.
6-year-olds are not cooking meth on the playgrounds.
Government is making shitloads of tax revenue.
IIRC, a multiple of what they anticipated.
It's no big deal.
 

pdxrovermech

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i hate legalized pot. Anyone who wanted to smoke already was. Now I have about 10 pot shops in a 2 mile radius of my shop and the number of shitty people loitering, camping out, and leaving their garbage everywhere has only increased.
 

ERover82

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I live in metro Denver.
First, fuck Boulder. It's always smelled like patchouli from the trustafarians. Whah, someone else is getting high. Need a fence around that whole place.
My office is in a warehouse area, many of which are now growhouses. When they turn on the exhaust fans, all you can smell is skunk weed.
Whatever.
6-year-olds are not cooking meth on the playgrounds.
Government is making shitloads of tax revenue.
IIRC, a multiple of what they anticipated.
It's no big deal.

Same in Southern OR. Weed has long been common.
Biggest difference is it's not hidden any more.
Dispensaries are common. People are more relaxed about it.
Tall fences everywhere pretending to hide obvious yard grows.
Weed festivals, weed ads, weed paraphernalia, all common.
Smoking weed in public almost as common as tobacco. Rules are bent.
Meth tweakers are still here. Hasn't changed.
 
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bigred

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Yeah I know.

I was addressing national legal status.

Wouldn't that make life easier.. But let's not let common sense get in the way of our legal system. But that's what I was thinking about when I asked what had changed. I live in a state where I doubt it will be legal, even medically, for a while. I was curious about the validity of all of the doomsday talk when CO first opened up for business.
 

emmodg

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I've got to make money to buy beer, food, fly rods, cars, motorcycles, clothes, and a new shotgun - I have no idea how people spend money on a fucking weed! Hippies!