with marijuana gaining legal status in many places...

[mjbrox]

Bullshit...if big money is there for the taking, you can bet your ass Big Corp will be there to try and rake it in.

Example: e-cigs

Big T is in big now, and dominating the non-tank market. They are pushing for more FDA regulation, esp. over the tank based e-cigs, because they know how to deal with the FDA (and already have the infrastructure to meet FDA requirements), and it places an additional cost burden on the new e-cig makers, thus pushing out the smaller players.

The MINUTE the feds lift the banking restrictions on dealing with weed growers/sellers, you can bet every last dollar you've got that Big Tobacco will be there waiting.

I see a big backlash against them if they do

I dont have data to back it up, but an example good be the craft brew industry. People prefer small breweries and seem to move away from craft brewers when they get bought by AB. I know I stopped buying Breckenridge Brewery once AB bought them

 

[SGaynor]

I dont have data to back it up, but an example good be the craft brew industry. People prefer small breweries and seem to move away from craft brewers when they get bought by AB. I know I stopped buying Breckenridge Brewery once AB bought them

IMO, the alcohol (beer/liquor) market is very different. People buy craft beer because it is of higher quality, not because it's the only place to get it (weed today). And, craft is what? Less than 10% of the beer market? I'm sure big tobacco will be happy with 85% of the weed market.

My guess is that when it becomes "legal" at the federal level, you'll see a lot of rules about control of "distribution." Who has a great, national distribution network already? Who is already set up to collect taxes nationally? Who is set up to meet FDA requirements (tar, THC limits, contamination issues)? Machine made MJ cigs? Whose got the $ for a national ad campaign, backed up with "rebate" coupons? Who has established strong brand loyalty already.

Big Tobacco.

They can overwhelm any mom and pop shop in any market in short order. My prediction is there will be a lot of consolidation among the independents to fight Big T, but then it will be the existing Big T companies, plus one or two others. Might be a local boutique places, but the largest market share will go to the big companies.

 

[pinkytoe69]

I see a big backlash against them if they do

I dont have data to back it up, but an example good be the craft brew industry. People prefer small breweries and seem to move away from craft brewers when they get bought by AB. I know I stopped buying Breckenridge Brewery once AB bought them

I think it will be about quality more than anything.

If they produce the equivalent of mexi brick shit, people will only buy it cause it's (I assume) cheap.

If its practically a cannabis cup contender, lots of people will buy it.

 

[jastutte]

I think it will be about quality more than anything.

If they produce the equivalent of mexi brick shit, people will only buy it cause it's (I assume) cheap.

If its practically a cannabis cup contender, lots of people will buy it.

well, dining out definitely backs up that people will choose quality over cost. if the discerning american diner has taught us one thing it's that people only go to quality restaurants.

i'm just glad we don't have any international conglomerates competing with the my local mom and pop diners, pubs and pancake houses.

 

[pinkytoe69]

well, dining out definitely backs up that people will choose quality over cost. if the discerning american diner has taught us one thing it's that people only go to quality restaurants.

i'm just glad we don't have any international conglomerates competing with the my local mom and pop diners, pubs and pancake houses.

Ha, good point. I would say that phenomenon is affected by time and ease more so than quality though.

If you gotta go to the store anyway, I don't know any "white collar" stoner who would buy brick over nice fresh stuff given the choice.

 

[mjbrox]

Ha, good point. I would say that phenomenon is affected by time and ease more so than quality though.

If you gotta go to the store anyway, I don't know any "white collar" stoner who would buy brick over nice fresh stuff given the choice.

Its also interesting to think if people will one day look to Colorado as having the best product.

 

[kennith]

Its also interesting to think if people will one day look to Colorado as having the best product.

Hehe... Not a chance. Not if NC ever gets into the game.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[gimebakmybulits]

Hehe... Not a chance. Not if NC ever gets into the game.

Cheers,

Kennith

Definitely have the soil for it but I would think that the high humidity and prevalence of downey/powdery mildew would give the cannabis growers the same grief it gives the hops farmers. Granted some strains are very resistant to it but just like hops it limits your possibilities.

 

[pinkytoe69]

Hehe... Not a chance. Not if NC ever gets into the game.

Cheers,

Kennith

None of y'all will top the 808 state

"Plant a broomstick in the ground and it will grow."

 

[JohnB]

They are everywhere in Portland and many other communities. Give it a few years to thin the heard and let the mobs fight for control. Its inevitable.
That being said I have not been into a shop to look around. I do have some friends who are in the 60 plus age group and weirdly enough they are partaking(which is odd to me).
When I was in High school going to some strange dudes house to buy Pot was part of the excitement.
Now it has no thrill to me.

 

[ptschram]

Pretending weed and meth are similar and thus should be treated the same is severely flawed. Weed at it's best has medical benefits and at its worst gives you the munchies and a mild high. Meth destroys your body, mind, and life. They're as different as aspirin and morphine. You wouldn't regulate them the same would you?

Legalization isn't about getting your "entitled" weed, that you pay for.. ?
It's about removing a huge waste of tax dollars, waste of law enforcement time, and waste of lives in jail for a substance less intoxicating than alcohol.

Except that I have a scrip for meth and am tested for weed.

You don't want to be around me when I'm driving and I have not taken my Adderall...

 

[ptschram]

None of y'all will top the 808 state

"Plant a broomstick in the ground and it will grow."

Have you ever been to Kentucky???

A friend of mine in college had huge signs in his grandfather's barns proclaiming that his farm had provided more hemp to the war efforts than any other farm in the US-for BOTH wars.

There are an awful lot of farms that produced a LOT of tobacco and a LOT of farmers who knopw how to grow THAT plant and Marijuana grows a WHOLE lot easie rthan tobacco!

There may or may not have been some chemistry students involved in extraction experiments in the 80s using the remnants of those war-time crops...

There may or may not have been a flash fire in a certain condo where a certain Siamese Kitten came screaming out of the kitchen as a fireball roared out of the kitchen until the solvent all flashed off.

I may or may not have been present when this took place.

(plausible deniabilty, however, for quite some time, there were as many people claiming to have been present the day of the flash fire as claimed to have been at the first Woodstock-LOL)

 

[ERover82]

Except that I have a scrip for meth and am tested for weed.

You don't want to be around me when I'm driving and I have not taken my Adderall...

Similar but meth is directly toxic to dopamine neurons, and is more potent. Imagine never being able to feel pleasure ever again.

 

[SCSL]

As a side note to some of the recent comments: no big corporations as long as it's federally illegal. No boards of directors. No publicly traded stock. No bonds or other paper. No VC. No banking system. So no worries about RJR MaryJane.

As for North Carolina, not a chance that would pass state legislature. So soil debate mute. The Southron states would be the last in line for legalization. And I bet the Deep South would even throw down the tenth amendment in the event of a federal legalization.

The more interesting question is, in light of all we know, why do the Feds steadfastly refuse to legalize, or even decriminalize. Cui bono?

 

[ERover82]

The Southron states would be the last in line for legalization. And I bet the Deep South would even throw down the third amendment in the event of a federal legalization.

Does weed not pair well with chew?

 

[SCSL]

Does weed not pair well with chew?

Dunno. I'm not a weed guy. But I'll throw down some Copenhagen.

 

[gimebakmybulits]

The more interesting question is, in light of all we know, why do the Feds steadfastly refuse to legalize, or even decriminalize. Cui bono?

Money, why would you close the piggy bank that you don't have to get permission from congress to use?

 

[Blue]

Yes, people are entitled to act like they want as long as those actions do not infringe on other peoples right.

Pot should be 100% legal and regulated just like alcohol. I honestly dont understand anyone who thinks otherwise.

I agree 100%

 

[SGaynor]

The Southron states would be the last in line for legalization. And I bet the Deep South would even throw down the tenth amendment in the event of a federal legalization.

May not legalize it, but it certainly is grown around here....LOL

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In all honesty, I'm actually a bit surprised by the number of people I know/met in East TN who are supportive, or at least agnostic, about weed being legal - and these are some pretty conservative, and older, folks.

 

[SGaynor]

Police arrest more people for marijuana use than for all violent crimes — combined

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-top-stories-2_marijuana-740a:homepage/story