Bottom line, as has been said; you can't un-ring a bell. You can't get rid of all the guns without creating a civil war, and leaving only criminals with guns and the rest of us helpless/defenseless. We were founded by using deadly force against tyranny. We will always defend ourselves against it, and while we're at it, against the unlawful when our gov't./police aren't available or are inept. Checks and balance. Live by the sword, die by the sword. An eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. If you don't accept it, you are free to leave. Go to Canada, Great Britain, Australia, or California. They will all take you in with open arms. Except CA; the illegals might not let you in once they have full control. They may even deport you.
Augment gun crime penalties,
enforce them, disallow sales to the unstable/convicted, enforce the fuck out of that, fuck everything else. All this bullshit could have been avoided if the government- which is supposed to represent us all- would have done its job and protected us (without overreach) from unstable people that are capable of harming us with guns or butter-knives; doesn't matter what tool they choose. If not guns, then chemicals, bombs, name-calling, whatever. One kid or a hundred; every
one matters.
Some freaks are going to fall through the cracks. It happens. There's no "future/thought-police". Right now it happens too much. The flip side is when someone gets undeservedly black-listed. That's gonna happen too. It happens now, but it's pretty easy for a pissed-off black-lister to legally get a gun and use it unlawfully. He'll just use something else if it's harder to get a gun.
BTW, they're all guns, they all do the same thing unless it's fully automatic. We sb able to own those too. Why not? The government does. Police, ATF, FBI.. Balance of power. The military sb the only ones w full auto's. Military can't be used against civilians (even tho they are). But guess why they need them. Bc of all of the criminals that have them! Funny, that! So the gov't, military, and criminals are the only ones with full-autos. Hmmm. Just like to type that point out and let it float around a bit..
Just bc an AR (note-Armalite Rifle, not Assault rifle, lefty) looks intimidating, doesn't make it any different than any other gun. Replace the plastic and aluminum w wood or some other out-dated material (progress), and it's the SAME F-ING THING! What are you gonna do? Uh, this looks futuristic and too scary; put it on the list. That looks antique but it works the same way; it's OK. WTF? And, most full/semi autos can be fitted with extended magazines too, legally or not; it's easy. So, another non-issue.
The anti-Americans/criminals who want to get rid of AR's, are not as dumb as they sound. They just want to chip away at each category, so eventually they get them all. The NEXT step, since they already got full-auto's, is semi-auto's. That's just about everything made today, since it's the 21st century. Only thing left would be single-shot.
It's easier to impose your will when there's no more threat of defense/retaliation. It's all about control. Imagine the state of this country if the citizens couldn't defend themselves! Think there's some corruption now? (You're a cute little naive creature if don't.) It would be so out of control, the Gestapo would blush.
Let's keep all this in perspective; it's not about guns, it's about ultimately becoming a socialist state. That's what control leads to, whether any "anti" admits or even realizes it. That's our future as a country if guns go away (for us citizens). THAT is why we need to stand up for our rights to the last. It's just the first major right to be taken away. After that, the floodgates open.
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