D2- 35's worth the effort vs higher CG?

KyleT

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seventyfive said:
what does meh mean?

ate slotted rotors and pbr pads work pretty good. i've tried, hawk, pagid, and textar, all seem to crack but the cheapy pbr/axxis metal masters hold up pretty well. upsetting actually, i use hawk hp plus on our cars, but the hawk lt pads sucked.

Meh means they suck IMO. I tried a lot of different ones. The toy brakes are large four piston calipers and clamp down way better in my opinion.
 

Mongo

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couple of questions and then I'll make some comments:

Mike,
Ride height of the truck, spring height, shock length
Emulsion shocks...you've never been out west have you
Explain your front end set-up
Too much braking?
 
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KyleT said:
35's on stock radius arms? NO WAY, super tippy even on 33's IMO.

35's on my super bad wicked awesome link setup? Yeah they should have been 37's, its stupid stable. im using 4.10's and it sits pretty nice on the highway and will still get up to speed somewhat. its slow in the mtns though.

Gem, I know we talked before prob a year and a half or two ago now, but yeah, it is totally worth doing the link setup. the only drawback for me is no sways and mad body roll, but it never feels unstable. even on the highway.
I'm running 33's on stock arms.TF 3'' springs and shocks.Its actually pretty stable with no swaybars.Then again I also have 1'' spacers and 33/12.50/18 so its got a pretty good stance.I'm happy with the setup.The only thing I'm going to change is to get castor corrected radius arms.The stock ones work but the springs don't seat "perfectly" because of the perch angle.I have L8 cones in the rear but none in the front and the front springs have'nt dislocated so far.
 

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yeah, the front end is a issue, even with cranked arms, the radius arms are still going to bind. I have a idea to fix that, but it's still just on paper for a D2 but the good news is the D1/90/110/RRC radius arm adapters will be out of the machine shop in 2 weeks...
 

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toy 80 cv next to a toy mini cv (about the same size as a D2 cv)
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Those are big boy rocks.

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Jaws 1 on Blanca Pk trail.
Not quite maxed out but gives an Idea. NO winching needed as I kept all tires on the ground. My traction control wasn't even hooked up. Jaws 2, we hooked the cable incase it got squirly, but didnt need it. http://www.traildamage.com/trails/index.php?id=112

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Mongo

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For the complete package, a front 3 link would make the truck most stable and balance it out
 

Jake1996D1

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Mongo said:
yeah, the front end is a issue, even with cranked arms, the radius arms are still going to bind. I have a idea to fix that, but it's still just on paper for a D2 but the good news is the D1/90/110/RRC radius arm adapters will be out of the machine shop in 2 weeks...


Damn it sign me up for these before the rear links...
 

Mongo

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Patience...
I was told 2 weeks today after we talked, so your #3 on the list..
 

KyleT

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wheelen disco said:
Just out of curiosity why is it that radius arms are less stable, is it due to there complete lack of anti-squat.

lack of AS affects climbing. the roll axis(?) causes it to feel tippy along with the binding and weird unloading that happens on d2's.
 

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Mongo said:
but the good news is the D1/90/110/RRC radius arm adapters will be out of the machine shop in 2 weeks...

So what do these adapters do? I'm guessing they're better than a cranked radius arm.
 

Mongo

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replaces the frame mount and gives you a orbital in place of the stock bushings. It's a cut/weld on replacement for the stock set-up. Relieves all binding at the frame. This works with any radius arm, stock or aftermarket. You still need the cranked arms to correct the castor...
 

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Is there somewhere that explains the difference between the D1 and D2 suspension? It sounds like you guys are saying the D2 suspension is more limited for off-road use.
 

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EricTyrrell said:
Is there somewhere that explains the difference between the D1 and D2 suspension? It sounds like you guys are saying the D2 suspension is more limited for off-road use.
DII's have a watts linkage in the rear (google it for pics) which really limits the flex of the DII. doesn't really show up much until you start lifting them past 2"