Gun Control: A Realistic Look
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1920SF said:
I'm going to predict it will get ugly. How much longer can the republican party sit around and watch our president tap dance on the Constitution of the United States of America?
Mike_Rupp said:
That's fine, everyone to their own. I personally think if gun manufactures put 1/2 the time and effort developing tasers as they did new guns there would be some very nice tasers out there for personal defense.
Am I to understand if you could wish for a world with or without guns you'd wish for one with?
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knewsom said:
never understood the flash hider thing. speaking from years of personal experience, a flash hider doesn't do shit to hide flash.
regarding ammoe, depends on where you are. 5.56 is really hard to find and so is 7.62 x 54 R. and 7.62 NATO. But I just bought a 1000 round case of 7.62 x 39 and the store had about 60 more in stock....
Durt D1ver said:
Because of frivolous lawsuits I assume. Guns are old technology, shouldn't we as humans embrace non lethal defense if guns were off the table? This is my point.
Jake said:
Went to cheaperthandirt to pick up some 40SW, damn near everything was sold out, and much was over .50 a round. Managed to lay in a couple hundred reloadable nonetheless, but yeesh.
The flash hider thing doesn't make any sense to me either. Really, none of it does except the magazine release. That's an actual function. What's confusing is that somehow, the lawmakers think that with a pistol grip, a flash-hider, a bayonet mount, and an adjustable buttstock, having a magazine release is somehow more dangerous than on a rifle without those things (like a Ruger). Obviously it won't make any difference to a nutjob who just wants to mow folks down.
POTUS is on now. Tune in.
Morons. "If there's even one life to be saved." America cares more about emotion than substance.
brian4d said:
That is a silly, wildly over generalized statement spouted with not much real thought.
1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system. and we don't this now, why?
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system. This is the bs as to why doctors ask if you own a gun, so much doctor/patience confidentuality
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system. once again why does this need to be a executive order?
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks. uh duh?
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun. and the latinos bitched about racial profiling with traffic stops...does this mean if you get pulled over, follow the rules and tell the cops you got a gun, that run a background check before they give it back
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers. this should be good
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations. hope you never have a gun stolen
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement. why wouldn't this be automatic
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2I9xxGYjp
I'll add more later
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system. This is the bs as to why doctors ask if you own a gun, so much doctor/patience confidentuality
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system. once again why does this need to be a executive order?
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks. uh duh?
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun. and the latinos bitched about racial profiling with traffic stops...does this mean if you get pulled over, follow the rules and tell the cops you got a gun, that run a background check before they give it back
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers. this should be good
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations. hope you never have a gun stolen
10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement. why wouldn't this be automatic
11. Nominate an ATF director.
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...#ixzz2I9xxGYjp
I'll add more later
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Ballah06 said:
Good lord.
Did anyone read my post at the end of the page before about the difference between fear and discomfort?
If a non-threatening person (or persons) walks into a room packing, I dont turn into a drooling nincompoop as if I were trying to ask Hottie McTits out on a date.
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pinkytoe69 said:
Many, many years ago during the Christmas season I went shopping at the mall with my friend. He's a bit on the bulky side, with a face full of beard. As is legal in Az (open carry) he was wearing a nickel plated .357 on his belt. We went into this card store and another customer's eyes became as large as saucers. She stayed exactly 180 degrees from where ever he was, staring at him. Like he was going to whip it out, pistol whip everyone in the shop and then rob it. We were laughing about it after we left. We must have walked by 4-5 cops and mall security as we shopped. Not one reacted, commented or probably even gave it a second thought. This is all before the CCW laws were passed. That lady would probably pass out cold if she knew the number of people carrying around her on a typical day.
az_max said:
Haha, see Im not that bad.
You guys should realize that I grew up on Maui. Being that Hawaii has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation, seeing people other than police casually walking around (even in private) with guns is not something I was remotely exposed to growing up.
As an antithesis to the Chicago data, the super strict gun laws there resulted in the lowest gun death rate in the country.
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ptschram
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chris snell said:
I said it before and it bears repeating, if saving lives was worth as much as some seem to think, we would not have cars, no swing sets, no scissors, much less plowshares.
Anyone who has taken ANY economics knows there is an acceptable risk to everything.
knewsom said:
I forgot about the fucking bayonet thing.... yeah lots of slaughters take place with teh 8" bayonet from an AK or an M16......:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
adujustable buttstock: too many idiots watching The Matrix......