Gun Control

[Blue]

That's why I'm fully in support of increased background checks with the caveat that it can't be unreasonable for law-abiding citizens (such as everyone have to wait 1 year to be processed). I'd even be OK with a month long process for background checks. Of course, with the obvious ineptitude displayed by our governing bodies time & time again, I'm not very confident that they can actually get much done in a couple weeks or a month. But at least it's a start.

This also brings me back to my previous point....would everyone feel better if this Cruz dipfuck went on his killing spree in March instead of February because he had a longer waiting period & background check? Of course not, which is why the process has to change and these mental fucktards need to prohibited from owning firearms. But you can't have people just start screaming out "she's a witch" and then BAM you're done for. I certainly don't have all the answers. But I do know that you can't unring the bell (great tune by Gov't Mule by the way).

I remember being a kid in the 70's and learning about all the Russian nukes pointed at us. In my youthful naivete, I thought that we could all (US & Russians) just destroy our nukes and throw away all the plans so no one could make more. But shit man, there's always someone willing to fuck the system and get the upper hand. Same with thugs and nutjobs and guns. The cat's already out of the bag, the bell has already been rung. Too late cheapskate.

 

[ERover82]

Jesus, are you really this fucking stupid? Please tell me you?re joking.

Calm down. Your insults are boring. Do you not see that a gun both gives you an offensive advantage and escalates the situation? It may scare them away. They may try to jump you and take it. You may shoot down an attacker. They may be more likely to pull and use a gun or knife if they see you have one and feel the need to use more powerful offensive tools. Or they might see you have a gun and shoot you where they otherwise would have just taken your wallet because you looked like a less risky target. I'd like to see data on this.

 

[Ballah06]

Here is more food for thought. How many regularly practice drawing from concealed, reloading, clearing stoppages, etc.? All that will happen. Just saying.

 

[mjbrox]

Nope. Gave both of. Them hockey sticks.


I like you put a lot of the blame on parents. We don't have snowflakes because of the government. We have snowflakes because the parents do what they are told and don't question conformity.

Don't fat shame
Don't make fun of queers
Don't go far from home there's strangers out there
Don't ride a bike you'll get hurt
Always walk away from a fight
ALWAYS call someone to fix everything


Parents nowadays are fucking twats.

So what you are saying is that we have mass shootings because parents encourage their kids to be nice to their peers?

 

[seventyfive]

I completely agree. Access to weapons for these losers should not be easy.

Now how to go about making access impossible or at least extremely difficult....

Precisely.

This last kid should not been able to buy a weapon. Cops called over 30 times. Instead of correcting that failure what do we hear?

GET RID OF GUNS!

The columbine kid had a stockpile. HOW THE FUCK DID HIS PARENTS NOT KNOW?

I couldn't hide shit from my parents... they weren't being intrusive they were being parents!!

 

[Blue]

Calm down. Your insults are boring. Do you not see that a gun both gives you an offensive advantage and escalates the situation? It may scare them away. They may try to jump you and take it. You may shoot down an attacker. They may be more likely to pull and use a gun or knife if they see you have one and feel the need to use more powerful offensive tools. Or they might see you have a gun and shoot you where they otherwise would have just taken your wallet because you looked like a less risky target. I'd like to see data on this.

I think they'd just shoot you because your mental masturbation is so damn annoying.

 

[AbnMike]

so if you were attacked by an unarmed person you would still shoot them?

Fuck. Yes. Doubly so for my 5?7? 105lb wife.

Why wouldn?t I? Or why wouldn?t she? I/she was atracked randomly by someone intent on violence.

Should we instead call a time out and seek a referee for a rousing bout of fisticuffs?

As far as the other argument that people who are armed assume everyone is out to get them I thought I explained that earlier:

No.

However there is always a chance someone may attack you so why not be prepared to protect yourself?

I don?t drive around fearing a flat or even assuming one, but I have a jack and a spare.

Number of times I?ve driven and had a flat since 1986: 0.

Number of times I?ve had a gun pulled on me and responded in kind resulting in the nefarious shitheads running away: 1.

 

[Blue]

What I don't understand is how some of these ladies think it's perfectly acceptable to just go belly up and surrender to someone who attacks you. It's not some macho bullshit thing, it's a matter of common sense and decency. If you want to take my wallet because you're a thief then fuck you, I say no. I don't care what it takes to stop you....smack to the face, kick to the balls, lead pipe to the head, two shots center of mass, etc. If you have a reasonable chance of injuring me and you go on the offensive then fuck you ya twat.

 

[seventyfive]

So what you are saying is that we have mass shootings because parents encourage their kids to be nice to their peers?

No. And I don't let my kids bully other kids. I don't like bullies.

I meant we don't let our children make mistakes so we can teach them why they were wrong. Mistakes are not mistakes...they are teachable moments.

Not allowing your child to make mistakes creates a snowflake in my opinion.

My son actually gets in trouble, at school, for sticking up kids getting bullied! What does that teach a child? Protect the weak and you get in trouble? That's not what he learns on the ice and that's not what I learned in the navy.

My wife is a teacher and even she said schools are getting way too liberal.

 

[seventyfive]

Fuck. Yes. Doubly so for my 5?7? 105lb wife.

Why wouldn?t I? Or why wouldn?t she? I/she was atracked randomly by someone intent on violence.

Should we instead call a time out and seek a referee for a rousing bout of fisticuffs?

As far as the other argument that people who are armed assume everyone is out to get them I thought I explained that earlier:

No.

However there is always a chance someone may attack you so why not be prepared to protect yourself?

I don?t drive around fearing a flat or even assuming one, but I have a jack and a spare.

Number of times I?ve driven and had a flat since 1986: 0.

Number of times I?ve had a gun pulled on me and responded in kind resulting in the nefarious shitheads running away: 1.

Only time I was held up was Kansas City in the lobby of a hotel. Had there not been 2 children in the lobby I would have attacked him. However the odds of two children being shot due to my initial thought I could not live with.

The bitch of it is the guy was really nervous and I think I could've taken him.

 

[ERover82]

I think they'd just shoot you because your mental masturbation is so damn annoying.

It appears you don't like to think. Maybe it hurts. Where's the data? Come on. Don't puss out.

 

[Blue]

It appears you don't like to think. Maybe it hurts. Where's the data? Come on. Don't puss out.

Puss out? Fuck off you lazy twatdribble. Go find it and get back to us.

 

[seventyfive]

Puss out? Fuck off you lazy twatdribble. Go find it and get back to us.

Twatdribble!! I'm stealing that one.

 

[wjsj69]

Funny people still think their little guns are going to stand a chance against tyranny.

You're right, in most cases, no one has a chance against tyranny. (I do know of at least once when tyranny was defeated.. long time ago tho, over 200yrs I think) I just like the fact that there are more arms than ever in the hands of citizens. That should at least make 'em think twice about their tactics. Escalation can go both ways. And who knows, maybe cooler heads will prevail when both sides are heavily armed. If it's always one sided, that's when tyranny is born. Probably why the world hates us; no one can compete militarily. Hard to trust anyone with that much power. Anyway, that's why The Anarchists Cookbook was originally written; not to promote terrorism but to give the people the same information that the gov't. has. The biggest escalation of arms in history never amounted to anything bc both sides knew that aggression = annihilation. I wonder if that's where they got the idea to strengthen soft targets? Hmmm..

 

[ERover82]

Puss out? Fuck off you lazy twatdribble. Go find it and get back to us.

Find it? Fuck off you boner smoking anal-queefer. Use your brain even though it hurts.

 

[az_max]

That's why I'm fully in support of increased background checks with the caveat that it can't be unreasonable for law-abiding citizens (such as everyone have to wait 1 year to be processed). I'd even be OK with a month long process for background checks. Of course, with the obvious ineptitude displayed by our governing bodies time & time again, I'm not very confident that they can actually get much done in a couple weeks or a month. But at least it's a start.
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All agencies from the Andy Griffith's of the world to the CIA/FBI/NSA need to share data. It needs to be real-time and as complete as possible. If they're checking for any possible red flag in a person's application, I want all data to be available.

It needs to be quick. 3-5 days is not unreasonable, the six month search of the NFA stamp is way too long. Maybe include the possibility of pulling back the gun if something pops up in a search within 3 months.

 

[Blue]

Find it? Fuck off you boner smoking anal-queefer. Use your brain even though it hurts.

Oops, someone no longer finds my insults boring. LOL, you're too easy.

 

[ERover82]

Oops, someone no longer finds my insults boring. LOL, you're too easy.

Still boring, and at this point silly. Look I can take cheap shots all day too. Call every statement you make fucking stupid, but it's meaningless. Either substantiate yourself or fade into background noise.

 

[brian4d]

Calm down. Your insults are boring. Do you not see that a gun both gives you an offensive advantage and escalates the situation? It may scare them away. They may try to jump you and take it. You may shoot down an attacker. They may be more likely to pull and use a gun or knife if they see you have one and feel the need to use more powerful offensive tools. Or they might see you have a gun and shoot you where they otherwise would have just taken your wallet because you looked like a less risky target. I'd like to see data on this.

Eric, what about the bell cannot be unrung don?t you understand? 300 million guns. Everything else doesn?t matter about your argument until this is answered.

 

[Blue]

Still boring, and at this point silly. Look I can take cheap shots all day too. Call every statement you make fucking stupid, but it's meaningless. Either substantiate yourself or fade into background noise.

Listen, Sriracha tits, it's just friendly banter on discoweb so we can still be besties. If you truly seek the answer to your question, then you must find it on your own. I have my own important research to do. Lately I've been wondering if I'm caught out in the rain and I have an umbrella, am I more or less likely to walk away dry?