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You should check out the new tents 4x4AG is carrying. That was the only tent I was aware of in the PR meadow that was bone dry. Its pretty gourmet stuff and even LR rebranded one of the models (although at a higher price).
Having a MARvelous time in Virginia
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You should check out the new tents 4x4AG is carrying. That was the only tent I was aware of in the PR meadow that was bone dry. Its pretty gourmet stuff and even LR rebranded one of the models (although at a higher price).
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Rumor has it Land Rover is considering getting rid of the Rave CD format and T4 Systems all together. The shops feel it is a bit antiquated. The guys at LR are in talks with some Scottish scientists at the Roslin Institute trying to set up an agreement to clone Drew.
If the cloning idea falls through not to worry...Each shop willl have a Robotic Drew in hopes of putting the Honda Robot to shame.. The only problem with the Robotic Drew is Land Rover is concerned it may be to jam packed with sensors and have a tendency to have some electrical issues. I hear they are also concerned about the robots drivetrain throwing out a u joint in it non serviceable kneecaps. This could lead to a major driveline failure. They do sound very positive though about the overall economy of the robot since it will be running on a Ford Focus motor which is estimated to allow the robot to move around the shop freely on about 50 gallons of gas every 10 hours.
I went back last night to the island to recover our stuff, Mike McCraig got us the all clear. It was BEAUTIFUL out there in the evening, and our stuff was as we left it.
Thanks to Mike and Stuart for looking out for us
On a sad note, I found out someone left a new Coleman tent set up in the main field, and it was FULL OF TRASH- chest high no less. To whoever did this, you bring the sucketh. PERIOD. The ROAV folks work too hard to have to put up with this kind of crap. If anyone has pics of these folks or knows who they are, let them know they should skip the next event or we may be tempted to return the favor...
When you see Stuart next time, ask him about swimming in the James for his cell phone
Thanks to Mike and Stuart for looking out for us
On a sad note, I found out someone left a new Coleman tent set up in the main field, and it was FULL OF TRASH- chest high no less. To whoever did this, you bring the sucketh. PERIOD. The ROAV folks work too hard to have to put up with this kind of crap. If anyone has pics of these folks or knows who they are, let them know they should skip the next event or we may be tempted to return the favor...
When you see Stuart next time, ask him about swimming in the James for his cell phone
That really sucks. Whoever did that has absolutely no class. How difficult is it to haul your trash out to the dumpster?cptyarderho said:
I think most everyone is very concientious about their trash, and I really appreciate that.
Good point about letting these folks know that's not how to return the favor of a wonderful event.
We were probably the last people in the meadow and everything was picked up and piled into the 'trash' pile at the trailhead. If we could, we would have brought it all down the hill to help, but there was too much and not enough room in the rovers.
Good point about letting these folks know that's not how to return the favor of a wonderful event.
We were probably the last people in the meadow and everything was picked up and piled into the 'trash' pile at the trailhead. If we could, we would have brought it all down the hill to help, but there was too much and not enough room in the rovers.
Yeah, the problem is that a bunch of inconsiderate people left all their trash in a pile for the trash fairy to come and pick up. I just don't understand - everybody hauled all that junk in to the site, why is it so difficult to pack it out again? Roof racks work great for strapping trash to.Roverlady said:
Forgive me please, as one who left part of a tent in the trash heap at the trailhead in the upper meadow, but if that was not the proper thing to do, I wish someone had pointed it out and we would've done it differently. We piled the trashed tents etc next to the garbage barrels. I was not aware that there was any kind of central garbage location on site. I was under the impression that they bring a truck in to collect the trash barrels. Pehaps that is info that should've been shared with us all. Had we known different we would've handled it different. I will be sure to pass our apologies on to the ROAV staff for our mistake and pay our penance.
Randy, and Pugsly, my point was that we DID do the RIGHT thing. I believe Jeff and others said it was OK that we had piled the trash where the barrels were on the hill. There were many other tents, etc that were left there (we also had someone leave one UP in our camping area, but we broke it down and moved it to the trash area).
I hope that was right. I was under the impression that we were allowed to leave that stuff with the barrels in one area. The rest of the meadow was clean.
One suggestion I have for next year is to give everyone a large black trash/leaf bag with their registration packet. That will help make the suggestion....and perhaps we should have a central trash location near Rally control or the exit of the area?
I hope that was right. I was under the impression that we were allowed to leave that stuff with the barrels in one area. The rest of the meadow was clean.
One suggestion I have for next year is to give everyone a large black trash/leaf bag with their registration packet. That will help make the suggestion....and perhaps we should have a central trash location near Rally control or the exit of the area?
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Dumpster
Wasn't there a big ass dumpster in the parking lot right before you got to the main road??? I certainly hope that was what that green monster was since I tossed my soaked nature valley oats n honey bars into it but not before I took the wrappers off to recycle them.
I am not sure about the island, who left what where or who doesn't even care anymore-the bottom line is if you dragged the stuff in you should have room to drag it out.
Wasn't there a big ass dumpster in the parking lot right before you got to the main road??? I certainly hope that was what that green monster was since I tossed my soaked nature valley oats n honey bars into it but not before I took the wrappers off to recycle them.
I am not sure about the island, who left what where or who doesn't even care anymore-the bottom line is if you dragged the stuff in you should have room to drag it out.
Will, was that out near the house on the road? I didn't see that...but we came in the other way....
If there was one, and we missed it, I'm sorry. I don't remember anyone telling us about a location of the dumpster when we registered. Last year I know they had a truck that came around and we all gave them our trash on site. Maybe they couldn't get in this year.
This was our first year in the upper meadow--we usually camp on the hill across from Rally Control and we are much closer to the main areas where we can take our trash, etc. I followed the lead of others by taking all of our junk to the trash barrels and leaving it all there in one pile.
I'll ask our board friends if that was the right thing to do...
If there was one, and we missed it, I'm sorry. I don't remember anyone telling us about a location of the dumpster when we registered. Last year I know they had a truck that came around and we all gave them our trash on site. Maybe they couldn't get in this year.
This was our first year in the upper meadow--we usually camp on the hill across from Rally Control and we are much closer to the main areas where we can take our trash, etc. I followed the lead of others by taking all of our junk to the trash barrels and leaving it all there in one pile.
I'll ask our board friends if that was the right thing to do...
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If the barrels were full, it's ok to leave stuff next to them if unable to get it to the dumpster (or unaware there was one). Don't torture yourself. Some people just abandoned their junk and those are the people who suck.
As for the earlier question about the green 04 DII w/TJM- I put that truck together for my former neighbor, Gordon Boyd. He had NEVER been offroad before that weekend... ever. All reports are that he took to it very well. His truck sports RTE 3 inch springs, TMAX 9500 winch on TJM pre-03 bumper (which he no longer wants- TJM bumpers look good but suck). It's also got RTE sliders... it normally sports a Hannibal rack, but we left it off. For that 'something is different but I can't put my finger on it' effect, we installed a Kalahari grille also. Both our 04's were sporting Firestone Destinations and they ROCK in mud.
As for the earlier question about the green 04 DII w/TJM- I put that truck together for my former neighbor, Gordon Boyd. He had NEVER been offroad before that weekend... ever. All reports are that he took to it very well. His truck sports RTE 3 inch springs, TMAX 9500 winch on TJM pre-03 bumper (which he no longer wants- TJM bumpers look good but suck). It's also got RTE sliders... it normally sports a Hannibal rack, but we left it off. For that 'something is different but I can't put my finger on it' effect, we installed a Kalahari grille also. Both our 04's were sporting Firestone Destinations and they ROCK in mud.
I have a TJM, and I wouldn't say it sucks.. it's by far not the best for wheeling.. the winch tray which hangs down low isn't very desirable.. the approach angle is kind of limited.. it shifts a bit on big hits.. but for light/medium wheeling its not bad.. I'll probably switch it to something with more clearance now that i'm doing more wheeling..
I've spoken to Jeff Bang from ROAV and he echoes Steve Youngs comments. He went on to say that they pay the trash guy the same amount of money to clean up if there are empty barrels or full barrels or overflowing barrels and that we shouldn't worry if the stuff was piled next to the barrel. Stuff left out in the field would be a whole different issue. So I think folks can chill with the holier-than-thou accusations at this point.
you are right, putting stuff near the trash collection points is no big deal. My beef was with the folks who left a set-up tent, stakes in the ground, etc- with TONS of loose garbage. They made an effort to make it harder to clean up, seems it must have been to spite others. A number of easy ups and tents did not survive the rain, no big deal, not the same as loose coffe grounds and eggshellss, etc. Mike M. found it, I did not. Maybe he can elaborate.Randy Maynard said:
99% of the people there were very gracious, that is why I lik this event.
Yeah, as others have said I think that was fine. This thread was started about the trash filled tent that someone left.Roverlady said:
I'm glad we're all on the same page with this. I know the PhillyRovers camp was policed 3 times for leftover trash. I wasn't there for the final one, but I am confident that those of us that were did the right thing. As for the ass-monkeys that left a mess behind, we'll all pay for your laziness.
Glad to see the trash situation is resolved. I am more than sure the folks that posted on here were not responsible for Chuck and Mikes findings..
This does appear to be an area of opportunity for next years event and I am sure it will be addressed to prevent any more mishaps.
My main concern at this point is I saw a couple of trucks that appeared...now I cant confirm it but they did appear to be leaking or should I say weeping oil. This is truly not acceptable at a Land Rover event. IF Your truck leaks oil then it should not be on the trail. Next year I beleive there should be a ROAV team at the gate inspecting underneath each and every Rover with white gloves to see if the truck leaks oil. IF IT DOES...No trail rides. IF IT DOES NOT...Then the owner should be allowed to pull the truck off the trailer -RETURN THE TRAILER TO THE VISITOR LOT AND THEN REPLENISH AND FILL THE MOTOR, SWIVELS, DIFFS, TFER CASE AND TRANS TO ALL SPECS/check all fluid levels and drive it freely on the trails.
This does appear to be an area of opportunity for next years event and I am sure it will be addressed to prevent any more mishaps.
My main concern at this point is I saw a couple of trucks that appeared...now I cant confirm it but they did appear to be leaking or should I say weeping oil. This is truly not acceptable at a Land Rover event. IF Your truck leaks oil then it should not be on the trail. Next year I beleive there should be a ROAV team at the gate inspecting underneath each and every Rover with white gloves to see if the truck leaks oil. IF IT DOES...No trail rides. IF IT DOES NOT...Then the owner should be allowed to pull the truck off the trailer -RETURN THE TRAILER TO THE VISITOR LOT AND THEN REPLENISH AND FILL THE MOTOR, SWIVELS, DIFFS, TFER CASE AND TRANS TO ALL SPECS/check all fluid levels and drive it freely on the trails.
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Um Will.....these are Land Rovers? You know, with the automatic rust inhibitor system? Or are you just trying to get all the trails to yourself next year???