Just ordered some tires... LOL

kennith

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Kenny,
Just get some fucking thorn birds already.

I can't use them. I never qualified with this equipment:

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Requirements for Thornbird employment, Section 5, Subsection 7: Personal performance standards.

"7: Once sufficiently overweight, complete the following:

7a: Accurately dispense and consume one full bandolier of beer cartridges."


Cheers,

Kennith
 

jhmover

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I run 2 sets of tires. The vast majority of my driving is on-road, I run Bridgestone HT's on one set of wheels and enjoy the quiet. When I go off-road I have a second set of wheels that have Goodyear MTR's. My wife's RX 350 runs Bridgestones. I put Sumitomo tires on it once and they ended up being noisier than MTR's.

I've been all over Northern Nevada off-road and never had a flat with the MTR's.
 

SGaynor

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just in time, I need new rubber. My BFG KM's have tread left and are dry rotting. fucking front right cannot hold decent pressure.

can I get 235/85 on a 2 in lift? I feel like its been years since I looked at tire size threads, dreading even searching for it, sorry.

Yes. I've got 235/85 on my '03
 

adriatic04

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Yes. I've got 235/85 on my '03

thank you, mind sharing what kind and maybe a pic or two? can PM me if you want to just email. I think I am going to go this route but I know the tire shop will say they wont fit. my lift is OME/RTE, about 3/4 years, dont notice much sag.
 

kennith

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I'm still playing with pressures. The other tires weren't available this time, so I'm just going to stick with these for a while.

I'm getting used to feeling what they want to do, and how to get the most from them.

If you play with the tread and leave the sidewalls out of it, they are fairly quick to respond, but it takes a bit of attention. Steering the vehicle with these tires has become an interesting experience. They have sort of a "Goldilocks Arc".

Small adjustments made quickly will pull the vehicle in one direction or another, and if it's done right with a bit of throttle, controllable oversteer can be maintained, if not easily entered and exited smoothly.

It doesn't take much to encourage understeer and twitchiness, though. You're playing with a very few degrees on the steering wheel in order to prevent poor behavior. Such small adjustments on a large vehicle at speed is a bit of a tall order.

These tires are like Alfredo sauce.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

ERover82

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Are you doing twice the posted speed? A disco shouldn't normally even see the opportunity for under and over steer. It's like talking about the articulation on a Honda Civic.
 

SGaynor

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thank you, mind sharing what kind and maybe a pic or two? can PM me if you want to just email. I think I am going to go this route but I know the tire shop will say they wont fit. my lift is OME/RTE, about 3/4 years, dont notice much sag.


2" OME HD springs/Nitro shocks. BFG AT. Here's a picture of the front; I don't have one available of the complete side.

NB: the tire shop might say they recommend 7" wheels, not the 8" you have on the D2, but many have run them without issues.
 

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MM3846

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i read this thread three times and cant figure out the issue here. you're having a problem cornering on dirt roads? a lifted disco isn't transferring weight and sliding like a WRC car? you double tap the gas pedal twice when going over a jump and your truck doesnt do a backflip?

you have MTRKs right? what load range?
 

kennith

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i read this thread three times and cant figure out the issue here. you're having a problem cornering on dirt roads? a lifted disco isn't transferring weight and sliding like a WRC car? you double tap the gas pedal twice when going over a jump and your truck doesnt do a backflip?

you have MTRKs right? what load range?

I consider the handling characteristics of more ponderous vehicles pretty damned important.

On a public road, you're out there with other people, and most of them are stupid. Off pavement, less than ideal roads can pull you all over the damned place. It's annoying, tiring, and can be unsafe.

Over and understeer isn't all about sliding around. The subtle effects of the two can make a big difference in how a vehicle responds in various conditions.

I'm a little more sensitive to it right now, because a part I'm installing soon is likely to increase understeer quite a bit, and I was hoping to be using tires that were at least as tame as the ones I had to prevent stacking the effect.

In 265/75R16, they come in E rating.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

MM3846

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I understand what you're saying. Is your truck lifted? Roof rack? My XJ weighed as much as a lifted Disco, was on 35" MTZs, and had no swaybars. It cornered, stopped, and felt just as good as or better than stock. I've helped build other Jeeps that were tires as large as 42" that had no problems on the highway or off road at speed.

The thing I find is that most Rover guys lift and raise COG but don't go wide. That's messy. I'm assuming you're adding a larger front swaybar or a giant Jay Leno chin front bumper since you are suggesting you are going to be increasing understeer?
 

kennith

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I understand what you're saying. Is your truck lifted? Roof rack? My XJ weighed as much as a lifted Disco, was on 35" MTZs, and had no swaybars. It cornered, stopped, and felt just as good as or better than stock. I've helped build other Jeeps that were tires as large as 42" that had no problems on the highway or off road at speed.

The thing I find is that most Rover guys lift and raise COG but don't go wide. That's messy. I'm assuming you're adding a larger front swaybar or a giant Jay Leno chin front bumper since you are suggesting you are going to be increasing understeer?

I'm sticking a Quaife differential in the front. It's built already, but I'm waiting until the one for the rear is sorted as I'm changing gears as well.

That won't be so bad by itself given the benefits in annoying terrain, but you can only stack issues so high before you can't drive around them.

I'm on weight redistribution detail at the moment. I want a lighter front bumper tucked in tighter, a lighter winch, and the electronics back in the rear where they belong.

That shit is heavy, and it all hangs out in front of the axle.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

kennith

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It's lifted between 1.5" and 3" depending on the springs I'm using. I do have a rack. I'd rather not keep it up there, but the floor makes a huge difference in the summer heat.

It's kind of stupid, but the only real reason I keep the rack is for daily comfort. It comes off when I actually use the vehicle.:rofl:

Cheers,

Kennith
 

K-rover

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It's lifted between 1.5" and 3" depending on the springs I'm using.
Cheers,

Kennith


Really??? So how often to do change out springs?

Oversteer/ Understeer?? :banghead: I cant figure out if you're really that anal, or if you're just bat shit crazy?!

Lets see a picture of your truck!
 

DiscoPhoto

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Really??? So how often to do change out springs?

Oversteer/ Understeer?? :banghead: I cant figure out if you're really that anal, or if you're just bat shit crazy?!

Lets see a picture of your truck!

This is what I imagine kennith does while posting his unnecessarily well written responses

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MM3846

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it pretty much comes down to one thing...

if you want your truck to drive/behave like stock, you should leave it that way.
 

kennith

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Really??? So how often to do change out springs?

Oversteer/ Understeer?? :banghead: I cant figure out if you're really that anal, or if you're just bat shit crazy?!

Lets see a picture of your truck!

Not very often.

When I go to a trail, I fit taller springs. Around town and on most trips, I fit shorter, more firm springs. When towing or hauling for long periods of time, I fit load springs.

It's nothing special. This is no different in principal than disconnecting sway bars when you'd like a bit more articulation.

It only takes a few minutes to install springs that will best match the nature of your travel.

Cheers,

Kennith