The latest snorkel masterpiece

Rover grenade

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It's a 69 Land Cruizer pickup. Damn near factory condition two years ago. All mods are bolt-on and original parts were kept so it can be returned to stock. It is one of the most amazing rigs I have seen, it Could win an award at a classic car show and then go wheel the Rubicon flawlessly. He picked a bad line on some water soaked rocks on the way out of this trail and flopped. Minor damage.

Motor went on the way home though. He's going to put a 2006 Tundra motor in it.


Btw I tossed in the photo of the Cruizer on it's side to show the consequense of the rock I am pulling an up hill tire on.
 

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I HATE PONIES

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Thanks for the pics i like the looks of that truck. It reminds me of the old dodge army trucks.
 

Rover grenade

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There was a DII with a winch on this run with us. The 69 TLC pickup has one as well it's just hidden inside the rear box.
 

rdoane

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Rover grenade said:
And yes I am running TUBE BUMPERS in these photos, and you know what Greg H, I MADE THEM in my garage along with every other mod and repair (besides the trans) I do to my truck. Tell me again I am a wannabe Poseur!

Your bug-sheild screams hardcore.
 

I HATE PONIES

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Are they 1/2 ton or what? I like the looks and they look easy to modify. How would a person like myself find one in the U.S.
 

Rover grenade

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The one pictured above was purchased on e-bay from a guy who restores them in AZ. He spent ALOT! Drove it home (sac) from AZ and has since spent a boat load of cash buying stock doors to cut half doors out of, Duplicate sets of axles so he could store the originals etc..... This is actuallyy his second, the first was a flatbed turd someone else had already molested. The nice thing about this one is it was literally as new as the day it was originally sold off the showroom floor when he got his hands on it.
 

GregH

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Rover grenade said:
You are totaly right I am a total wanabe poseur mall crawler because the statements I made regarding tube strength totaly prove I am more worried about how my truck looks than performs.. YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT!!

LOL-I don't recall calling you any names despite your foul-mouthed tirade.

Rover grenade said:
Again you totaly must know me? Do you live next door? How are you able to so acutely pinpoint my insecurities? I am less than an hour from thr RUBICON, FORDYCE, BLUE LAKES, and many other challenging trails NOT in the DESERT. You once again have proved YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT. What do you think I do RUN around in sand dunes all day?

BTW A snorkel is designed to move your intake from BEHIND the HEADLIGHT to higher ground, to suck water into your intake in the stock location requires much less than mid windshield depth water, however you ARE the AUTHORITY so I guess you must be right.

LOL-if you were talking about an old diesel engined vehicle I would agree. However, unless your gasoline-engined D1 has a waterproofed distributor and ignition and a sealed ECU (and maybe relocated) you will not make it far with water over the hood. Even then, have fun draining your diffs and AT since you will have likely submerged your breathers (unless you've extended those up your A-pillars).

If you do a little research you'll find raised air intakes were originally designed for desert use to help keep dust out of your engine.

But of course, you know all this.

Rover grenade said:
You are truly a DICK HEAD. Your jabs at my intelligence as well as your assurmation of my Wannabe-ness is a insecure attempt to make your Mall Crawling Highscool girl Trolling sorry excuse for a life seem better. I have enjoyed listening to your dreams of what you think I represent in real life, however I am sorry to inform you that in reality I am a smart, shit kicking, self employed, wrenching, welding, and wheeling son of a bitch. You on the other hand are a Pussy.

In conclusion I have been wheeling some of the most challenging trails in the Sierra Nevadas for well over 12 years. If that makes me a wannabe then you must be a FUCKING rock GOD! You are an asshat and I am done with you.

I don't think anything I can post points out your intelligence level better than your own posting. It screams for itself.

Kudo's to you for being self-employed. I can tell that you are very smart.

BTW-when was the last time you ran the Rubicon or Fordyce? Any pics of Fordyce? I think that snorkel would come in handy there...

Rover grenade said:
Like my Proper use of Quotes, took the time to be internet forum asshat aproved just for you!

Thank you for making an effort. It does help me follow your meandering logic.

Rover grenade said:
And yes I am running TUBE BUMPERS in these photos, and you know what Greg H, I MADE THEM in my garage along with every other mod and repair (besides the trans) I do to my truck.

ROFL-Now I understand why you came running to defend samiam!

In all honesty, your F/R bumpers (while ugly as sin) do appear to provide alot better protection than the samiam/rovertracks one. However, it does appear that your front bumper is bent upwards at the front (judging from the gap at the sides). How is it mounted to the frame? Is it like the samiam one? Sandwiching rather than boxing the frame?

Rover grenade said:
Tell me again I am a wannabe Poseur!

Hmm. I can't remember calling you that the first time.

It is quite obvious that you are no poseur! Who else is brave enough to run big dawg trails with no winch. BTW, is that a stock track rod? I am also unable to see a even front diff guard. You are truly amazing!

Rover grenade said:
Fucking looser............

Looser?

BTW-I like the FJ45. Wouldn't mind one myself-though I'd leave the original Toy engine (Chevy stovebolt 6 derived).
 
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Rover grenade

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GregH said:
LOL-I don't recall calling you any names despite your foul-mouthed tirade.


You in fact called me a wannabe.



GregH said:
LOL-if you were talking about an old diesel engined vehicle I would agree. However, unless your gasoline-engined D1 has a waterproofed distributor and ignition and a sealed ECU (and maybe relocated) you will not make it far with water over the hood. Even then, have fun draining your diffs and AT since you will have likely submerged your breathers (unless you've extended those up your A-pillars).

If you do a little research you'll find raised air intakes were originally designed for desert use to help keep dust out of your engine.

But of course, you know all this.


See the problem here is I said I had not purchased a snorkel because there were more important things to improve. Your snorkel educational tid bit is enlightening but all of this info is common knowledge and you seem to be contradicting your earlier post regarding this particular upgrade.



GregH said:
I don't think anything I can post points out your intelligence level better than your own posting. It screams for itself.

Kudo's to you for being self-employed. I can tell that you are very smart.


BTW-when was the last time you ran the Rubicon or Fordyce? Any pics of Fordyce? I think that snorkel would come in handy there...


Haven't run either since I sold my Toyota. I am still in the process of building my Rover to an acceptable level for either of these trails. I have however completed both numerous times in my previous vehicle.



GregH said:
Thank you for making an effort. It does help me follow your meandering logic.


Your welcome.



GregH said:
ROFL-Now I understand why you came running to defend samiam!

In all honesty, your F/R bumpers (while ugly as sin) do appear to provide alot better protection than the samiam/rovertracks one. However, it does appear that your front bumper is bent upwards at the front (judging from the gap at the sides). How is it mounted to the frame? Is it like the samiam one? Sandwiching rather than boxing the frame?


Bumper is not bent I built it that way. My mounts are boxed and I am running all grade 8 hardwear. The skidplate is steel and welded to the main tube as well as the frame mounts. I am not worried about wether you like it or not but those were the kindest word you've said to me since we have crossed wits on this forum and I think I am going to cry........A little.........



GregH said:
Hmm. I can't remember calling you that the first time.

It is quite obvious that you are no poseur! Who else is brave enough to run big dawg trails with no winch. BTW, is that a stock track rod? I am also unable to see a even front diff guard. You are truly amazing!



Looser?



I think it is hilarious that a diff guard is so high on your list of important mods. In all of the years I have been wheeling I have never needed to be recovered by a winch, Nor have I ever hit a diff hard enough to do damage. I know I need to machine a HD track rod and drag link but time is my only obstacle there as I am awaiting my materials to build them with from the chocolate santa.



Say what you want and look as cool and smart on the internet as you would like. When you are ready to put your shit on the line come on out to the Tahoe area and let's go wheeling. We can use your winch to drag your rig off the trail. Shit I'll even meet you in Johnson Valley instead to make it easier on you.



Oh and by the way I am raising a family while putting my fiancee' through Med school on my income alone, so if my mods don't meet your standards then you can pay for em'. My business is strong but young (5yrs) and I started and continue to run one of the top agencies in the U.S. Your chalenges of my intelect are meaningless to me because as far as I am concerned your just another smartass internet blowhard.
 

Rover grenade

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Originally Posted by GregH
Yes, the Mantec is quite pricey-~$370. You can really buy alot of HD drivetrain parts for that. And you're all about having a good-looking truck. I know that by your TUBE IS STRONGER THAN BOX comments.

BTW-when you get that snorkel, please post some wading to mid-windshield pics. That is really the advantage of having a snorkel with a gasoline engine. I can see you are an experienced off roader and you know that when you see "raised air intakes" on vehicles in the desert they are just wannabes.




Originally Posted by GregH
LOL-if you were talking about an old diesel engined vehicle I would agree. However, unless your gasoline-engined D1 has a waterproofed distributor and ignition and a sealed ECU (and maybe relocated) you will not make it far with water over the hood. Even then, have fun draining your diffs and AT since you will have likely submerged your breathers (unless you've extended those up your A-pillars).

If you do a little research you'll find raised air intakes were originally designed for desert use to help keep dust out of your engine.

But of course, you know all this.
 

mgreenspan

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Rover grenade said:
Say what you want and look as cool and smart on the internet as you would like.


You did just what you are trying to make fun of him for. Also, you are missing the sarcasm in previous posts by GregH.



Also, ignoring an extremely cheap and easy way to protect a very probable area for damage is ridiculous. Additionally, not having proper recovery equipment simply because you have never needed to use it before is ridiculous.

I'm no real expert, but I have common sense. I hope that all newbie members to this site do also because I'd hate for poor advice/methods to be followed by newbs resulting in their things getting messed up. I love offroading, it's an awesome hobby, but you've got to be safe about it. Having the right equipment and knowing how to use it is very important. Also protecting vulnerable areas of your vehicle is important even if you think you're so great that it won't ever happen to you. People say they won't get an STD during unprotected sex...it happens to them. People say they'll never break an axle offroading...it happens to them. People say they won't hit their diffs hard enough to damage them...
 

GregH

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Rover grenade said:
You in fact called me a wannabe.

Please enlighten me as to where I called "you" a wannabe.

Rover grenade said:
See the problem here is I said I had not purchased a snorkel because there were more important things to improve. Your snorkel educational tid bit is enlightening but all of this info is common knowledge and you seem to be contradicting your earlier post regarding this particular upgrade.

Hmmm. I seem to recall you posting that you "would rather spend the $$ on HD drivetreain (sic) parts and stay out of deep water". You went on the to post:
Rover grenade said:
BTW A snorkel is designed to move your intake from BEHIND the HEADLIGHT to higher ground, to suck water into your intake in the stock location requires much less than mid windshield depth water...

I do not think I contradicted myself. However, if my info is common knowledge why does your post contradict it?


Rover grenade said:
Haven't run either since I sold my Toyota. I am still in the process of building my Rover to an acceptable level for either of these trails. I have however completed both numerous times in my previous vehicle.

Interesting-please post pics! What date did you wheel Fordyce?

Rover grenade said:
Bumper is not bent I built it that way. My mounts are boxed and I am running all grade 8 hardwear. The skidplate is steel and welded to the main tube as well as the frame mounts. I am not worried about wether you like it or not

Even more interesting-please post closer pics of mounting!

Rover grenade said:
I think it is hilarious that a diff guard is so high on your list of important mods. In all of the years I have been wheeling I have never needed to be recovered by a winch, Nor have I ever hit a diff hard enough to do damage.

ROFL-you are a master wheeler! Rubicon, Fordyce. And nairy a need for winch or diff guard! FWIW the Toy does have a tougher housing than a Rover. It is equivalent to tin foil. You are in for a rude awakening.

Rover grenade said:
I know I need to machine a HD track rod and drag link but time is my only obstacle there as I am awaiting my materials to build them with from the chocolate santa.

No need to machine. Just sleeve and weld and it will be a big improvement.

Rover grenade said:
Say what you want and look as cool and smart on the internet as you would like. When you are ready to put your shit on the line come on out to the Tahoe area and let's go wheeling. We can use your winch to drag your rig off the trail. Shit I'll even meet you in Johnson Valley instead to make it easier on you.

LOL-By Johnson Valley, are you saying you are willing to wheel your D1 on the hammers?

I would like to do Rubicon again. I'm sure it has changed a bit since 1977.

Not sure I would wheel it with you, though.

Rover grenade said:
Oh and by the way I am raising a family while putting my fiancee' through Med school on my income alone, so if my mods don't meet your standards then you can pay for em'. My business is strong but young (5yrs) and I started and continue to run one of the top agencies in the U.S.

Good for you! That is the most impressive thing you have yet posted.

Rover grenade said:
of my intelect are meaningless to me because as far as I am concerned your just another smartass internet blowhard.

I thought you were done with me a long time ago. Yet you keep posting...
 
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Rover grenade

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mgreenspan said:
You did just what you are trying to make fun of him for. Also, you are missing the sarcasm in previous posts by GregH.



Also, ignoring an extremely cheap and easy way to protect a very probable area for damage is ridiculous. Additionally, not having proper recovery equipment simply because you have never needed to use it before is ridiculous.

I'm no real expert, but I have common sense. I hope that all newbie members to this site do also because I'd hate for poor advice/methods to be followed by newbs resulting in their things getting messed up. I love offroading, it's an awesome hobby, but you've got to be safe about it. Having the right equipment and knowing how to use it is very important. Also protecting vulnerable areas of your vehicle is important even if you think you're so great that it won't ever happen to you. People say they won't get an STD during unprotected sex...it happens to them. People say they'll never break an axle offroading...it happens to them. People say they won't hit their diffs hard enough to damage them...



Having common sense is what has kept me from dragging my diffs and rolling my truck, that and a good spotter. Do it your way and I'll do it mine.

I plan on buying the T-max rock crwler winch as soon as I have the extra 700$ just laying around. As far as the diffs go I am not to worried. New axles are in the works.

I wheel with other rigs as a rule. Most of the other vehicles I wheel with have a winch.

Thanks for your concern.


What this boils down to is I was not interested in getting involved in this thread untill Greg H made his smart ass comment in the beginning dragging me into it. I am, and was over Greg H last week.

Off to put tire to dirt as I am sure you all know it is way more fun than sitting around on the internet talking shit.

Pics when I return if you all can decide to play nice.