toyota recall

[jim-00-4.6]

Saw an article in today's Denver Post, toyota recalling a bunch of vehicles because the gas pedal sticks.
oh my.
perhaps i misread the article, and they're recalling because the floor mats get stuck under the pedal, im not sure.

 

[mbrummal]

both reasons. 2 different recalls. some cars are affected by both recalls.

 

[MarkP]

Watch this morph into a broad review of all 'drive-by-(fill in the blank) systems of todays computer controlled cars.

Toyota Pedal Recall May Spur U.S. to Require New Brake Systems

From what I'm reading it wasn't the pedal itself or carpeting, it was the sensor + software that had no override capability.

 

[Ballah06]

Got an email from Hertz, since i rent from them quite a bit, saying they are addressing the Toyota vehicle issue and pulling the faulty ones out of their rental fleet. For those not comfortable renting Toyotas because of all this, they got plenty other models to choose from.

 

[varova87]

my gf has an 06 tacoma double cab. I'm taking hers in next week, but the gas pedal doesn't come anywhere close to the floor mats on hers. Not like I've seen in pictures, anyways.

 

[MarkP]

This isn't just Toyota ........

"...General Motors Co. and Ford Motor Co. now have brake override units on some models, while Honda Motor Co. said it doesn’t have the technology. Chrysler Group LLC said it has override controls on all autos with electronic throttle systems.....​

That said, isn't a "brake override technology" basically the same as if you step on the brakes when cruise control is engaged? Mmmmmm ...... seems like the insertion point for that logic was neglected when drive-by-wire was introduced.

 

[p m]

That said, isn't a "brake override technology" basically the same as if you step on the brakes when cruise control is engaged? Mmmmmm ...... seems like the insertion point for that logic was neglected when drive-by-wire was introduced.

one line of code... or less.

 

[Skaramunga]

my mom has an 09 corolla.

she has gotten both recalls.

makes me laugh cause LR recalls are WAY cooler.

gas tank may emit explosive vapors!

if our pedals got stuck down we'd still be taken off the line by a ford escort.

no doubt my ABS with a mind of it's own would then kick in & balance the equation.

 

[jhmover]

If you see a Toyota coming up going 120 in your rearview mirror GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!

 

[MarkP]

one line of code... or less.

"....Cost Estimate

Requiring automakers to upgrade braking software may cost $25 to $50 on each vehicle, Johnson said. That expense would rise to a range of $50 to $150 should regulators compel installation of new technology, he said......."​

:rofl:

 

[bmohan55]

Toyota's new slogan

"Nobody can stop us now!"

 

[Skaramunga]

or slam on the brakes any time you see one behind ya just so you can treat yourself to a brand new rear bumper!

 

[jhmover]

Now we have hot Hondas. Must be a Japanese car epidemic this year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring...ecalls-thousands-of-cars-amid-fire-fears.html

 

[p m]

"....Cost Estimate

Requiring automakers to upgrade braking software may cost $25 to $50 on each vehicle, Johnson said. That expense would rise to a range of $50 to $150 should regulators compel installation of new technology, he said......."​

:rofl:

yeah, but that involves a live UAW member hooking up a cable to OBD-2 connector, and performing "software installation."

Actually, I believe there _was_ such a line of code (software developers are not terribly dumb, on average), but it was commented out as a feature not specified in ReqSpec documents.

 

[sven]

Why do new cars NEED drive by wire throttles? I dont see the benefit at all. Good ole mechanical cables worked!

 

[p m]

No problem with drive-by-wire. The problem is with Toyota's drive-by-wire, and them denying there has been a problem despite having five times the industry average number of complaints with runaway vehicles.

 

[BlackAndTan]

Just wait. 70 years from now it's gonna be a marauding-robot recall. And that could get ugly. You know, 'cause they're not going to want the override after having had a taste of freedom, and all that.

They really need to come up with a carmaker credo, like:

A vehicle may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
A vehicle must obey any orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
A vehicle must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Actually now I see an issue with the first one... that's where ABS and stability control systems came from really, isn't it? But the vehicle's programmers are not all-knowing. So they need to repeal the second law for vehicles - or at least mod it.

 

[az_max]

Yesterday I was picking up a spring at Ace Hardware. 2" diameter by 6" long compression. The guy asked what is was for and I told him to keep the throttle from sticking in my Toyota. He laughed.

 

[Timmy!!!!!!!]

my gf has an 06 tacoma double cab.

Pics or it isn't true.

 

[Drillbit]

Pics or it isn't true.

Of the girlfriend not the truck, just to be clear