D-Web is officially bonkers.

antichrist

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rover4x4 said:
What's the best motor oil to use with a 160 degree thermostat?
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p m

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seventyfive said:
Tom,
fwiw, i've been wheeling with the Rover crowd since 2001. most likely im just a disgruntled old fart now like garrett. just because my join date here is 2010, doesn't mean im new to this crowd. but that is a good assumption you made.
Mike,

it's not about how long you've been wheeling with the Rover crowd, it is about the sample of time you observed DWeb behavior.
I don't think it changed at all.
 

Jake

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I have been on dweb since around 2000-2001, bought my first disco on here from John Kruger. The general forum has always beena brawl. Fucking go cry somewhere else if you don't like it.
 

LRflip

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none of your fucking business
It's not just about the random shit in the General Section...

There is a static feel with how the people on this forum operates....No catchers masks are being made for the LR3, that maybe THAT is the problem.

Guys are doing Toy swaps and being shit on Vs. guys that are keeping a locked, lifted, racked, and jacked truck squeeky clean after 10 years to make sure the wine and cheese in the back won't get dirty on their way to the mall (cool looking truck, bro.)

All I want to know is who is going to put full floaters under an LR3?
 

Tugela

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ukoffroad said:
The LR3/4 crowd is not hitting the woods the way the earlier ones did.

Not in my neck of the woods. I went on a trail drive this past summer that had 7 trucks:

4 LR3s
1 D2
1 P38
my D1

The guys and gals in the LR3s had no hesitations around scraping their body panels, getting stuck in thick mud, and finding out just how well that knob on the console worked. And you know something? The stock LR3 with street tires did pretty damn well.

If I ever replace my D1 I plan to take a serious look at a LR3 or L322 Rangie. I've ridden in one of those, too- as impressive as it is, the electronics eliminate much of the need for driver input.

I think in 5 or 10 years there will be a growing community of dudes like us who work on their LR3s and now have a more powerful diagnostic computer in their tool box. Will and Marty will be parting them. Ultimately it's still a vehicle with 4 wheels and an engine, the only difference is that some of the systems are more complicated and parts are more expensive. But those prices will come down.
 

JohnB

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seventyfive said:
gun threads.

gun scope threads.

money laundering threads.

ignorant motherfuckers postin in tech threads.



Ho and Axel, wake up. This is why MAR has shrunk to nothing. SAE is off the map. CROC aint shit. National rally east coast is in Colorado.




Take control of this forum, before it is the laughing stock of the next forum, like LRO, LandRoverForums, etc.

I personally think you are exactly what you are bitching about.
 

kennith

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Drillbit said:
I never sold you anything Mike. I have a very strong policy of "no sales to someone who has a unsavory political system in their nickname" This includes Nazi Mike, Khmer Rouge Ken, and Dave the Plutocrat. When these people call me I just hang up the phone on principle. I won't compromise this, not even for Dave the Plutocrat and that guy is loaded.

It's a good thing I stopped calling myself Divine Emperor Kennith the Fabulous. I'd never get parts around here.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

Tugela

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antichrist said:
I hope that's not meant as a recommendation, even though it is as far as Land Rover is concerned.

Not a recommendation, just an observation. To my mind, Terrain Response is a double-edged sword. It's great that it can optimize traction in a wide range of conditions and get you up/over/through stuff. But then it's the car doing the work for you and makes the driver less engaged in the process. It doesn't teach the driver about how to handle the vehicle or understand the terrain when all you have to do is turn the knob and point the wheel generally in the direction you want to go. Terrain Response is one step closer to the Google driverless car. And it's a lot of technology to rely on that may ruin your day if it fails on the trail. How much would it suck to finish a trail drive on the bump stops in "limp mode"?

In a simpler world our trucks would have 3 mechanically locking differentials instead of complex circuitry monitoring each wheel and your latte temperature 50 grillion times a second. Our windows would roll up and down manually. And so on.

Maybe it's time for a Gaelendewagen.
 

JohnB

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seventyfive said:
actually, you are correct. we purchased an engine and ecu from a vendor who sourced the parts from you. that vendor knew we specifically asked for a specific ecu.
we specifically said we need an '03 non-lev ecu.

first ecu was incorrect. i personally returned it via UPS to you.

second ecu was incorrect. it said right on the ECU 'KV', which is a freelander ecu. plugged it into the truck, read the vin, ran the vin, and sure enough it was a freelander ecu.
i once again personally returned via UPS to you.

third ECU showed up, and once again it was incorrect.

the confusion i have is this. Randy Williams, the actual vendor we purchased this through, said you told him you called me and talked to me about this. you never called me.
I resorted to calling Justin Monnin, since you two are friends, to see if he could call you and straighten this out.
the end result was me having to put the secondary air heads back on the truck, which equaled a good bit of time and money lost.

Randy Williams assured me, on the third and final ecu, you told him you personally went out to an '03 non-lev and pulled the ecu.

you can resort to name calling all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that you were involved in this transaction. i was unaware, at the time, this is not uncommon with used parts...vendor doesnt have something so they source it from another vendor.

instead of name calling, call me out and call me a liar that you were in no way associated at all with this transaction. call Randy a liar, that he did not source the engine and ecu(s) from you. call Justin Monnin a liar, that i never called him and asked him to call you and send another ecu out to us.
monday, i will call UPS and get the tracking information regarding the ecus i personally shipped back to you, properly labeled and bubble wrapped.

Sounds like a pussy way to run a shop. Why not pick up the phone and call Marty yourself since you are so intent on calling him out as a bad vendor. Third party communication has three ways of geting the wrong parts plain and simple. It's like having your wife calling the wrecking yard for you and expect the correct part to be waiting for you when she comes to pick it up. Epic fail.
 

knewsom

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Tugela said:
If I ever replace my D1 I plan to take a serious look at a LR3 or L322 Rangie. I've ridden in one of those, too- as impressive as it is, the electronics eliminate much of the need for driver input.

I think in 5 or 10 years there will be a growing community of dudes like us who work on their LR3s and now have a more powerful diagnostic computer in their tool box. Will and Marty will be parting them. Ultimately it's still a vehicle with 4 wheels and an engine, the only difference is that some of the systems are more complicated and parts are more expensive. But those prices will come down.

I'm going to give this a big fat x2. There are a few things I really, REALLY like about the LR3, namely its length, and the Jaguar engine.
 

seventyfive

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Tugela said:
Maybe it's time for a Gaelendewagen.

been there, done that. great truck, but requires a lot of corrosion control. the best way to get a clean one is from a fire brigade, which is true for most trucks from europe.
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kennith

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This general forum has for years been a catch-all for the most controversial and politically incorrect keyboard karate imaginable, as well as some of the least important discussions in history. It's always been that way.

It's also easy. You don't have to censor yourself to any great degree, as must be done on most other forums. I can sign in here and be my normal, everyday foul-mouthed and opinionated self if I want to.

Tech forums are always going to be a bit off, but at least people try here, most of the time. You've got your normal run of cheap fucks, and people who say products must be great because people buy them, but that's about it. The occasional misplaced discussion does no real harm.

I don't personally attend gatherings, so I've little to say in that regard. Some people change over time, though. They don't enjoy the same things, or their lifestyle no longer allows such entertainment. Maybe they just end up like me, and would rather enjoy Land Rovers in their own way.

You'll find some new buddies eventually. We are all rootin' for ya!:applause: You go girl!:applause:

People come and go as their lifestyles or hobbies demand. That doesn't mean it's all over. Every few years, somebody bitches about the new guys, the lack of change, or the state of things overall.

They seem to forget what they signed up for.

Cheers,

Kennith