McCain VP- Sarah Palin

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"The vice president has two duties. One is to inquire daily as to the health of the president, and the other is to attend the funerals of Third World dictators. And neither of those do I find an enjoyable exercise.''

-- John McCain, Meet The Press (March 5, 2000)

I think Palin can handle that....besides she already has more executive experience than Obama.

That said, I need to find out more about her, but at first glance, seems OK to me for VP.
 

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I had already decided that my vote was going to McCain, although it wasn't a totally warm and fuzzy feeling. I knew my vote would never be for Obama. With this new announcement, I feel much more confident about my choice with McCain.

I've like pretty much everything I've researched about her. I think she will draw a huge following of middle America, blue collar men and women.

Even though this choice may be seen as reactive, I think once the hype has settled that a lot of people will realize it was a good choice.

The fact that she is also very attractive is a benefit. It is statically proven that attractive people are more successful.

I will sleep better tonight with no more nightmares of a socialist government. Nightmares of how every aspect of my life would be just like waiting in line at the DMV or on the phone on hold for 55 minutes with the IRS trying to find out where my tax refund is.
 

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J. Toronado said:
you guys are desperately trying to find a reason to like her. and thats understandable. but c'mon...inside arent you really pissed the fuck off? we know you are. i mean your guy just screwed the pooch a thousand ways over. what a dumb ass. who picks a female . . . its moronic.

Holding true to those Democrat principles I see. Identity politics and all.


J. Toronado said:
governor from alaska that no one has ever heard of?


Those on the East coast probably have never heard of her. But those in flyover country and . . . . the West . . . . have. I wonder how many Western states Obama will now pull his propaganda out of?
 

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DiscoJen said:
I had already decided that my vote was going to McCain, although it wasn't a totally warm and fuzzy feeling. I knew my vote would never be for Obama. With this new announcement, I feel much more confident about my choice with McCain.

I've like pretty much everything I've researched about her. I think she will draw a huge following of middle America, blue collar men and women.

Even though this choice may be seen as reactive, I think once the hype has settled that a lot of people will realize it was a good choice.

The fact that she is also very attractive is a benefit. It is statically proven that attractive people are more successful.

I will sleep better tonight with no more nightmares of a socialist government. Nightmares of how every aspect of my life would be just like waiting in line at the DMV or on the phone on hold for 55 minutes with the IRS trying to find out where my tax refund is.

Wow, Jen. I'm right with you 100%.

I would only add my concern with Obama over tax policy and increased efforts to overturn/violate the 2nd amendment.
 

MarkP

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I don't get Obama's criticisim of Palin

"Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday congratulated Alaska Governor Sarah Palin on her selection as John McCain's running-mate, while a campaign spokesman highlighted her "zero" foreign policy experience.

"Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency," Burton said in a statement.​

How much foreign policy experience does Obama have? Even Palin has been to Iraq while Obama had to be pushed to visit our troops.

And there is that "small towns" gaffe again.
 
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RBBailey said:
Then we should not teach about the Greeks, just about everything in the entire k-12 curriculum that has anything to do with Greek history and mythology is based upon their religion.
If it's true, then K-12 history curriculum is fucked up.
We've had ancient history for an entire year in middle school (in Soviet Union), and there was nothing that was based upon their religion. Mind it, their religion was covered.

Teaching creation has no place in public school (at least, in a society that declares itself independent of church). It is something your parents teach you (because the family has no obligation to be free of religion), or you come to by whatever emotional or rational way.
This part is the only thing I see as detriment to Palin's being a VP.
 

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SDD2 said:
Sure, but does Russia, for example, exert foreign policy decisions differently if Palin is suddenly thrust (insert joke here) into office? Hoping her inexperience could be exploited? Presence on an international stage is important ...
What was Clinton's or Bush's (both of them) or Reagan's international politics experience?
None.
 

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landrovered said:
Republican Sarah Palin said she thinks creationism should be taught alongside evolution in the state's public classrooms. Palin was answering a question from the moderator near the conclusion of Wednesday night's televised debate on KAKM Channel 7 when she said, "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information.
:rofl: Seriously? When I saw the thread I was going to say it should have been Pat Robertson. I guess I was closer to the mark than I thought.
 

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Studying Greek culture is to study their religion. Almost everything taught about the Greeks incorporates teaching about their religion and especially their belief systems. I can't imagine people don't understand this.

So, adding that statement that I wrote above, that would be a violation of: establishment of religion or the free exercise of religion?

Explain this and I will agree with you. If you can explain how telling people that there are other people who believe in a god is the equal to establishing religion, I would agree with you.

Based on these arguments, nothing based on theory, belief, morality, fiction, or imagination should be taught, read, or discussed in public schools -- non of those things are based on the hard facts, so they can't be taught.

I thought liberalism was supposed to be open to all points of view. I guess some are less equal than others though.
 

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She is a dominionist straight out of Rove's playbook. McCain chose her to placate the far right and he is selling his Maverick soul to get elected.
 

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Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background:

She was elected Alaska's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage.

Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.

She supported nutjob Pat Buchanan for president in 2000.

Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.

She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.

She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species.


I'm not saying a woman cant be a great vp or prez, but his choice seems a little obvious. Mccain will get grilled for this endlessly in next few months. Should be fun.
 
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I told my wife weeks ago he would pick a woman... just didn't know who.

THIS IS GREAT!

I've been reading up on Palin and I am impressed with what I am learning.

I wish I could have seen Hillary's reaction this morning :smilelol: I bet she is pissed... another woman will beat her to the White House hahaha.

On the topic of NOBAMA... its all media hype... just like they hyped up Kerry in 2004... he's the man... he's going to beat Bush, polls say its so... haha... poll data is so accurate :rofl:
 

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My main concern now is that I am having trouble getting my voter registration for Missouri. After all this and I may not even be able to vote. Grrrrrrr!!!!!
 

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garrett said:
What does Palin bring to the that McCain/Palin ticket? Besides a vagina.


Go read McCain's "Issues" section on the www.johnmccain.com website and you'll see what she brings to the table. What she has done in Alaska is very similar to what McCain has down on a lot of the different issues. So I'd say she brings strength and experience to what he wants to do.
 

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DiscoJen said:
My main concern now is that I am having trouble getting my voter registration for Missouri. After all this and I may not even be able to vote. Grrrrrrr!!!!!

Why not? Did you just move? Come to Oregon, you can pick up a registration with no I.D. on the day of.
 

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RBBailey said:
Studying Greek culture is to study their religion. Almost everything taught about the Greeks incorporates teaching about their religion and especially their belief systems. I can't imagine people don't understand this.

So, adding that statement that I wrote above, that would be a violation of: establishment of religion or the free exercise of religion?

Explain this and I will agree with you. If you can explain how telling people that there are other people who believe in a god is the equal to establishing religion, I would agree with you.

Based on these arguments, nothing based on theory, belief, morality, fiction, or imagination should be taught, read, or discussed in public schools -- non of those things are based on the hard facts, so they can't be taught.

I thought liberalism was supposed to be open to all points of view. I guess some are less equal than others though.

I can't believe that people believe in a talking snake...and that they hold public office..but hey, maybe I'm crazy.



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