Rear Locker. Getting by on Stock Axles for Mud and Snow

Andrew Homan

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Yes but NASCAR drivers have pit crews when their shit breaks. Most of us don't have pit crews on the trails so we learned how to fix and build our own shit. It makes the trip nicer when you can get your truck going or at least off the trail;)
 

xtravrt

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May 14, 2005
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ArmyRover said:
I've never claimed to be an expert unlike you with wheeling all your life. I know what I know and I admit what I don't.

Fortunately for me I didn't need to know anything about a rover to say your being an ass to a great guy Keith.

I think you need a new insurance agent or you need to quit getting in wrecks. My bikes are no where near that much.

My bike is $600 to insure in Saskatchewan. It's way more here. Government owned monoploy insurance. They hate bikes. They take monthly payments but they ding you all during the riding season and you can't cancel out early. So my bike is nearly $500/month alone during riding season (short season). ;)
 

peter sherman

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Xrtrasmart, Keith is one of the best. Too bad for you as this is truly your loss. He has been a tremednous resource for me on a few projects of mine. He has shared info that has taken some money out of his pocket. I can't sit here & believe a word of what you say.

FYI all, the price went up to $469 when the invoice arrived (original deal was $430)
How much was for shipping? Did you expect that for free? You burned that bridge for 39 bucks. You have no idea how much that will cost you.

Rip Thom & Steve all you want I can give you a list of people outside Dweb that they have gone out of there way to help.

Oh threaten Nathan thats a good one as well!


extrication by friends at Dweb
You have things a little twisted better guess next time. How you say SA, Essay,ESE, eh!

You have much to learn NUB!

Keep telling yourself you are the outdoorsman,ATV,4X4 man of the year. You have no clue about anyone here. you ego is as large as you rover knowledge. O....

Oh ya now that your bridges are burned what are you going to do for your knowledge.

Doug you are a badass!:bigok:
 

xtravrt

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Andrew Homan said:
Yes but NASCAR drivers have pit crews when their shit breaks. Most of us don't have pit crews on the trails so we learned how to fix and build our own shit. It makes the trip nicer when you can get your truck going or at least off the trail;)

I agree, but there aren't very many rovers up here. Plus, you guys wheel differently. You guys are usually in large groups and run trails so you have help. Plus with no trails you're not going to be in someone's way. We have very little restrictions about where we can or can't go. Just this fall my son and I were out in an area alone hunting ducks where no one would ever find us unless they looked by plane and knew where to look. We had the trailer with two quads on it and extra gas that saved our asses. No pit crew.

Oh and the ATV thing was not to express driving experience (although I can do wicked reverse wheelies on my Outlander 800), it was just to say that we live the outdoor life out here and I can always drive my quad to get to work. I refer to us as sophisticated rednecks. :)
 
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ArmyRover

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lol I still remember that thread.

Your are dedicated brother I'll give you that.

As for off road experience I started in tanks, then bradleys, then hummers and finally offroading my RRC a few years back owned it for 7 years or so but didn't start really wheeling it till I moved to NH so your not alone on that one Andrew
 
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MUSKYMAN

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Musky. I unblocked you. Keith's email came across that way. Partly because I have been waiting to see what happens. He's noticeably absent from this debate. Kind of like you were trashing Bill for. I figured I'd leave it between him and I, but it became clear that he bitched to his Posse as you guys call yourselves, and you guys attacked on his behalf.

first off I respect keith for what he brings to this community...but I dont happen to have any of his products on my truck and I never claimed to be in his posse.

My bull shit meter went off on you when you made claims I was attacking bill from GBR in the other thread...once again just calling it like I see it. So I have happened to watch your posts...then I see you posting a new thread about a detroit and I responded with what I would call solid advice based on things you said in a number of threads

MUSKYMAN said:
dosent matter.

you by your own admission you plan to run chains and dive into terain at speed.

chains on 73lb tires with 30lb rims packed with snow and ice will create alot of rotational energy. when you stuff that spinning tire into a bog or buried tree or some other obstruction under the snow that increased amount of stored energy may snap a shaft and when it does then flip a coin on the life expectancy of the detroit.

you have allready expolded both factory diffs at the same time with your chosen driving style so just be ready to pay the piper.

IMHO you would have been better off with ARB's because they unlock for ice covered roads and dont fail as often as a detroit when a shaft fails...if I were you I would be selling the TT and DT and buy some ARB's...but thats just me.

then it hit me that you had bought that TT from keith so I had to ask what gives.

so still from where I am sitting it looks like you changed your mind and now by your own admission stuck keith for the freight...and IMHO thats "not so good"
 

xtravrt

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May 14, 2005
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Manitoba, Canada
peter sherman said:
Xrtrasmart, Keith is one of the best. Too bad for you as this is truly your loss. He has been a tremednous resource for me on a few projects of mine. He has shared info that has taken some money out of his pocket. I can't sit here & believe a word of what you say.

FYI all, the price went up to $469 when the invoice arrived (original deal was $430)
How much was for shipping? Did you expect that for free? You burned that bridge for 39 bucks. You have no idea how much that will cost you.

Rip Thom & Steve all you want I can give you a list of people outside Dweb that they have gone out of there way to help.

Oh threaten Nathan thats a good one as well!


extrication by friends at Dweb
You have things a little twisted better guess next time. How you say SA, Essay,ESE, eh!

You have much to learn NUB!

Keep telling yourself you are the outdoorsman,ATV,4X4 man of the year. You have no clue about anyone here. you ego is as large as you rover knowledge. O....

Oh ya now that your bridges are burned what are you going to do for your knowledge.

Doug you are a badass!:bigok:

Shipping was $50 on top of that. With shipping was $519. And yes I almost emailed him to tell him I would take it since it was on its way already. Then MightyMG and Musky had to go on the warpath. That's when I...to use Musky's term, I smelt a rat.

As for ego, I don't think I have been bragging much. I've outright said I don't build my own shit and know little about it. I have watched a bit though, done some research before choosing mods, and I do use my own shit. Quite a bit.

And threaten Nathan?? Where do you get that? I just felt like I could trust enough to buy a used third that I'd never even seen pictures of. I paid for it before he even removed it from his truck. After a comment like he made, it makes a guy go...oh shit...

As for Keith, when he called he was at a machine shop that does some work for him. Guess what Musky?? It doesn't appear that he makes his own stuff either? Wow, a businessman who outsources some work and fabricating to someone else. His design? Maybe not even?? Woah. GBR got a lot of grief over all this. Maybe Keith should tell us who his supplier is for everything he sells, that he doesn't personally design, cut, fabricate, weld, turn, machine, mill, whatever... That would be fair.
 
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xtravrt

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MUSKYMAN said:
first off I respect keith for what he brings to this community...but I dont happen to have any of his products on my truck and I never claimed to be in his posse.

My bull shit meter went off on you when you made claims I was attacking bill from GBR in the other thread...once again just calling it like I see it. So I have happened to watch your posts...then I see you posting a new thread about a detroit and I responded with what I would call solid advice based on things you said in a number of threads



then it hit me that you had bought that TT from keith so I had to ask what gives.

so still from where I am sitting it looks like you changed your mind and now by your own admission stuck keith for the freight...and IMHO thats "not so good"

Wrong order. I got the invoice, and he said he was going to charge the credit card that night but it hadn't shipped yet. Same night I emailed questioning the new price and asked if it was actual shipping ($50) as the invoice said, "Shipping and handling." He responded in the morning stating why the new price, and claiming to have sent a PM, which I never got. He didn't even answer shipping question. He then asked if everything was still a go. I didn't get that until the evening, at which time I said that I didn't want it. If he had said, "Dude. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I'll throw in the bearings." I probably would have said, "Awe what the hell, it's okay. I'll pay for the bearings." Because that's the kind of guy I am. If he would have offered to split the difference, I would have gladly done that. Instead, I got a simple email next morning that said it was already sent and thanks. WTF? He didn't even wait for my response, or he sent it anyway!!! I was NOT a happy camper. I told him so and he said to send it back or refuse the shipment. So yes he eats $50 now.

THEN, I started thinking about my options again. I was MUCH happier when I had already decided and deals were made. However, you can think what you want. There is an email trail for this bud. Mods? Did I get a PM from Keith? They should be able to tell.
 

MUSKYMAN

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man twist this anyway you like...its just pretty clear you come here to take and dont seem to be bringing anything to the site.

I for one feel I have offered you some good advice yet you want to consider me the bad guy from the posse.

keith offered you a TT you bought it and now keith is the bad guy.

have fun with your disco adventures dude...dougs popcorn bowl is empty and I am done with you and your one sided view of things here .:patriot:

and yes that is not the canadian flag:D
 

xtravrt

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May 14, 2005
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Fair enough. I agreed all along that I respected your advice regarding land rovers. I also said I would not take it regarding business matters after seeing your posts time and again regarding GBR. Keith is no friend of mine like he is to you. This was a business matter between a customer and a supposed dealer - not a transaction between dwebbers. You do not ask questions and wait for answers dude. You come in pointing fingers and making accusations and laying judgment, and then trying to drum up support for your POV. Don't expect me to thank you for that. As for Posse. MightyMg has added it to his Sig, and while he pushed most of the buttons and got the ball rolling, you took the suckerbait and chimed right in. And you've made it clear already what you think of us just north of you dude. Another show of class from Chicago. Cheers mate! :D
 

Roverdoc

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this guy is the ultimate douche...just quit posting and go away...sticking Keith with fifty bucks :banghead: wow....
 

varova87

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MUSKYMAN said:
you come here to take and dont seem to be bringing anything to the site.

i for one am pretty grateful for those folks on here who do contribute a lot. i sure as hell know i dont, becuase I don't know much of anything, still learning. my truck is a joke compared to most here, and i know i'd be knee deep in oil if i tried so much as swapping a diff on my own truck. hell, im proud of myself if i can do a brake job.

nevertheless, i'm happy to donate, and contribute when I can. i'm scheduled to have a beer with a few folks on here, and i look forward to the opportunity.:patriot:

and now, back to our program....
 

BWiggs

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xtravrt: I generally stay out of most threads, but for this one I can't help myself. You are an idiot. Please go away.

Just last night I typed out a response to your questions about stock CV's with a TT; I didn't hit reply because upon further review of your posts I figured that you were worse than that other idiot Jupiter Rover (only Canadian) and if I were to reply to you with accurate information based on first hand knowledge and experience that you would only question my info and do whatever you thought best anyhow.

You are only doing yourself a disservice by alienating experienced members of this community. I suggest you stop now, reevaluate yourself, and start to listen. Or just go away - it is that simple. If you aren't going to take advise of those that have the experience, then why are you here? Why do you ask questions that you don't want to hear the answers to? You admit that you don't know shit - so why act like such a douche?